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Madden NFL 11 Demo Roundtable

12:08 PM - July 23, 2010 by RaychelSnr

Both Chris and Christian got to play the Madden demo just a little bit early and sat down to talk through the demo and what they thought. Discussions centered around likes, dislikes, thoughts on the new commentary team and where we see Madden going this season. Check out their thoughts after the jump.

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# 81 Palo20 @ 07/24/10 12:29 PM

Does Madden have Tuner sets this year like NCAA?

# 82 JayD @ 07/24/10 01:12 PM

Decision made, after hearing franchise was barely touched and now it seems the game as a whole wasn't improved a lot i'll be holding on to NCAA and skipping out on Madden this year.

# 83 DirtyJerz32 @ 07/24/10 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Palo20


	Does Madden have Tuner sets this year like NCAA?

What is tuner sets?

# 84 roadman @ 07/24/10 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyJerz32


	What is tuner sets?

I think it means they can adjust minor things on the fly instead of patching it. I don't know what those minor things would be, though.

# 85 BezO @ 07/24/10 02:30 PM

From CD, I had a good idea what I would think about the game. This sounds like what I would've said, minus specifics that I look for. And I haven't played NCAA to compare.

Chris, care to expound on some things?

Passing game & separation: Was the separation explained by the animations? Were DBs still consistently breaking before WRs? Did better WRs seem to get more separation? Has the footwork in & out of breaks addressed at all? Fix or band-aid?

You covered fans & haters. What about those simply disappointed in Madden's lack of simulation of the sport? Anything crucial to fundamentals of the sport added?

You seem as unsatisfied playing defense as I have been. Christian mentioned somethings I've had a problem with... playing d-line. I always felt there weren't enough animations, and the AI was lacking. Anything new here at all? Any edge rushing animations added? Any new blocking interaction animations at all? Any engaged player mobility?

# 86 PGaither84 @ 07/24/10 02:35 PM

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	Christian: Right now, based on the demo, I'm calling it a push, teetering on the brink of going down. I'm really not liking Gameflow but thankfully that option can be turned off. Outside of that personal preference, there really are no glaring issues that would make me believe the retail version of the game will not be a solid NFL experience, I'm just not sure what was added to the game is enough to really differentiate it from Madden 10. I was really hoping for the NCAA10-NCAA11 type of leap for Madden this season, and based on the demo I'm not sure that's what we will be getting in a couple weeks.

To me, the funny thing about this quote is that the improvements from NCAA10-NCAA11 are so drastic because NCAA10 was much like Madden 09/NCAA09. The big "feature" for NCAA10 was the marching band. NCAA11 garnered a lot of the improvements from Madden 10 such as variable speed settings and presentation along with the Madden 11 improvements all rolled into one package that drops before Madden 11 mixed in with some NCAA specific improvements as well.

I wish NCAA copied more things from Madden. Things like the additional QB ratings or having non-hurry up offenses use accelerated clock. I also want Madden to take some things from NCAA, most note worthy is how hurry up/spread offenses are run. I like how in NCAA when you call the hurry up it brings up the play call screne for both offense and defense, but forces you to stick with one formation. You can still audible into another formation from your audibles, but this better represents the Hurry up imo. I don't like how in Madden 11, if you try to run the no-hudle with the Colts, they get dog tired after like 3 plays.

I think that this year, with the vast improvements from NCAA10-NCAA11, Madden's "thunder" was stolen. NCAA's "franchise" appears to be deeper than Madden's and I prefer the 120 "ways to win" over Madden's Gameflow so far. On the other hand, I think Gus Johnson will be better than NCAA's lack of Lee Corso, I prefer the NFL over the BS that is college football, and hopefully things like the run game/run defense will be better tuned than it's NCAA counterpart.

# 87 Dawsons_Creek @ 07/24/10 02:46 PM

NCAA 11 is great and plus with games like Fallout and Fable coming out in October I don't even care about Madden as much I need a few months ago. If its a bust so be it, I won't lose any sleep over it.

# 88 The Bimmer @ 07/24/10 04:44 PM

Thanks for this roundtable. I wont even waste my time downloading this demo. Sticking with Ncaa11 this year.

# 89 TombSong @ 07/24/10 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BezO


	From CD, I had a good idea what I would think about the game. This sounds like what I would've said, minus specifics that I look for. And I haven't played NCAA to compare. Chris, care to expound on some things? Passing game & separation: Was the separation explained by the animations? Were DBs still consistently breaking before WRs? Did better WRs seem to get more separation? Has the footwork in & out of breaks addressed at all? Fix or band-aid? You covered fans & haters. What about those simply disappointed in Madden's lack of simulation of the sport? Anything crucial to fundamentals of the sport added? You seem as unsatisfied playing defense as I have been. Christian mentioned somethings I've had a problem with... playing d-line. I always felt there weren't enough animations, and the AI was lacking. Anything new here at all? Any edge rushing animations added? Any new blocking interaction animations at all? Any engaged player mobility?

These are the types of questions that need to be asked that Bezo asked and talked about in reviews. The details of the gameplay.

Its good to see things like the sideline catches fixed and they have improved some presentation elements, and the run blocking. Big kudos.

Then you look at passes thrown right to WR's where the WR's dont even attempt to catch the ball. They just keep running like they are oblivious the ball is flying right over their head. Tackle animations you have no influence over because you can't add on. You can only watch as a small HB with NO momentum falls forward for 5 yards even though 3 defenders are in front of them pumping their legs to push him back. DB's that mirror WRs routes and break on the routes before the WR's . DB's going into catch animations BEHIND the WR they are checking, thus allowing the WR to catch the ball in front of them. Warping on both sides of the ball by WR's and DB/LB's. Super Leaps by LB's. Oline just leeting DE's run right by them untouched. ETC, ETC

You know, you try and deal with these same issues and new ones year after year and wonder WHY does it never get fixed. Then you read reviews and see praise heaped on the game with no mention of any of the past issues being addressed, THEN get labled as a "*****" for pointing this crap out or having a "agenda" I think its a "agenda" to NOT point this stuff out in the reviews.

If I had a big mega site with access to these guys, question one would be:

"When will your game exceed the levels of playability of those that obviously do better in regards to:

1. Run Blocking/Pass blocking
2. Player interaction
3. Tackling
4. Animations
5. Commentary/Presentation

I as a game reviewer ask this question because there are those who have supported your game for years and would like to move beyond 2005-2008 game play and move on into some ground breaking areas like other sports titles have done.

That ain't having a agenda, or being a "*****" that's simple journalism.

# 90 seriousluboy83 @ 07/24/10 05:56 PM

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	Christian: Playing as a D-Lineman is an exercise in frustration. If you thought it was tough to get to the QB in NCAA11, you haven't seen anything yet. The rewritten line AI works great by eliminating suction blocks, but it is down right impossible to sack the QB. If you manage to get past your offensive line assignment, be ready for the opposing QB to magically ditch the ball as your defender is draped all over him -- every single time.

So "robo-QB" is still alive...SMH!!!

# 91 CubFan23 @ 07/24/10 08:08 PM

Yikes! Ditched Madden 10 last year after a week, pre-ordered 11 from EA for $39.00, might wait to crack it open, might have to put it on ebay. Hope not, I miss a good football game!

# 92 mestevo @ 07/24/10 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MastaJedi1


	I liked M10, I'm know I'm gonna like M11. My only problem, the $60 price tag. Let's be real, there's not enough changes to justify paying full price, $30 tops! Was NCAA worth $60? No doubt, I passed on last years NCAA because I thought 09 was better, and M10 was a shoe in. This year my focus was on M11, until I played NCAA11's demo. No matter what happens with M11's demo, I'm still getting it, now after release if it doesn't live up...well NCAA take 1st place on my console. The way I read Chris & Christian is that they feel as I do, M11 is good but not worth $60.

I spent $30 at the movies today and that was just for my wife and I, over less than 3 hours (Inception)... I have no problems paying double that for a game that I'll probably play in binges off and on for the next year. Price is fine, especially if you get in on some of the trade in or preorder deals.

I don't care so much about what they put into it and trying to derive a value from that, I take value from what I am going to get out of it. If there isn't enough for someone to enjoy it at $60 then why buy it?

# 93 iamgramps @ 07/24/10 09:41 PM

I enjoyed Madden 10, and I'm looking forward to Madden 11. If it plays like NCAA 11 I'll be happy. With that said thousands of people will buy this game and EA know it. The devs don't come around because they don't have to. Madden's fan base is established, so for every fan they lose, they gain two. This is a very popular site, but I had no idea of it existence until last year. My point is we are a small percentage in the Madden community, EA's goal is to reach the masses, this community is not the masses; however, some of the ideas thrown around on this site are very innovative and should be considered by Ian and company. If they have restrictions and no real creative control, they should let their hard core fans know that.

# 94 Rock Chalk @ 07/24/10 09:52 PM

I really could care less about the new features, as long as they continue to upradge things every year and the new draftees, trades, coaches, etc. I am going to buy it, its always a great game and I play it for almost a year, its worth $60 to me.

# 95 smlmeyer @ 07/25/10 12:41 AM

If we thought getting to the QB was hard in NCAA 11? Feels like it did last year, TOO EASY. I broke the single season sack record on NCAA 11 by 4 sacks in my second year with SDSU. 82 overall player on Heisman.

# 96 #85_on_a_mission @ 07/25/10 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by seriousluboy83


	So "robo-QB" is still alive...SMH!!!

its still in ncaa

# 97 roadman @ 07/25/10 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TombSong


	These are the types of questions that need to be asked that Bezo asked and talked about in reviews. The details of the gameplay. Its good to see things like the sideline catches fixed and they have improved some presentation elements, and the run blocking. Big kudos. Then you look at passes thrown right to WR's where the WR's dont even attempt to catch the ball. They just keep running like they are oblivious the ball is flying right over their head. Tackle animations you have no influence over because you can't add on. You can only watch as a small HB with NO momentum falls forward for 5 yards even though 3 defenders are in front of them pumping their legs to push him back. DB's that mirror WRs routes and break on the routes before the WR's . DB's going into catch animations BEHIND the WR they are checking, thus allowing the WR to catch the ball in front of them. Warping on both sides of the ball by WR's and DB/LB's. Super Leaps by LB's. Oline just leeting DE's run right by them untouched. ETC, ETC You know, you try and deal with these same issues and new ones year after year and wonder WHY does it never get fixed. Then you read reviews and see praise heaped on the game with no mention of any of the past issues being addressed, THEN get labled as a "***" for pointing this crap out or having a "agenda" I think its a "agenda" to NOT point this stuff out in the reviews. If I had a big mega site with access to these guys, question one would be: "When will your game exceed the levels of playability of those that obviously do better in regards to: 1. Run Blocking/Pass blocking 2. Player interaction 3. Tackling 4. Animations 5. Commentary/Presentation I as a game reviewer ask this question because there are those who have supported your game for years and would like to move beyond 2005-2008 game play and move on into some ground breaking areas like other sports titles have done. That ain't having a agenda, or being a "***" that's simple journalism.

I agree with your post, but I wouldn't have went that far. Since the new rules, I haven't seen that type of posting around here.

It does slice both ways too, but more in the way you mentioned.

Just saying I haven't seen it in here lately. If it does, it's dealt with.

# 98 rooney8 @ 07/25/10 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Afrikan


	anyone else agree with this? I know it shouldn't, but it hurts me to read that......

I don't care about new features either. I mean many of the new features brought in the past few years were just taken out the next. I just want the things they have to be solid, franchise, gameplay etc.

# 99 PolkHigh33 @ 07/25/10 10:16 AM

I'll wait until I get to play the demo ..

It's pretty stupid to make your decision based on someone else's opinion ..

# 100 MCNABB51BOI @ 07/25/10 12:21 PM

yea il wait until i play first. these are prob the same guys saying NCAA was the best game ever ha lol. madden would have to take a step backwards to be the same as ncaa so i hoping they are wrong.

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