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MLB '10 The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors v4 (Opening Day Only)

03:20 AM - June 26, 2010 by Millennium

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	"SportsConnect Name: OSFM V4ReRated Sendspace File: http://www.sendspace.com/file/xck4yk O.S. Full Minors V.4 Includes the Full Minors rosters with all credit to Knight165, RidinDwnKinglsey and KSig24. Includes Faces by Knight165, Mr. Franchise and the great team of contributors to that aspect. Includes the Stances and Accessories by Strut24 and the community at large who provided information for their local / favorite players. Includes the Pitch and Stamina Edits by RAZRr1275 and Pope300hitter05. Includes the majority of SCEA created players, both pitchers and hitters, re-rated utilizing the Roster Tools program using a true (non-weighted) 3 year rating average (07-08-09) as a base. These ratings were then modified in an attempt to mirror 2010 performance. Note that some SCEA created players were not modified due to lack of MLB service time and small sample set. Full credit for this version to Bahnzo for all the work he does on the Roster Tool. Full credit and especially thanks to ThirdDegree5803 who put in a ton of time working of this roster version. Enjoy and please leave feedback. V4.1 to come - Different Stamina edits."

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OS Full Minors v4 (Franchise File)

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Originally Posted by HustlinOwl


	franchise file, let me know if anything is missed. http://www.sendspace.com/file/0n3kkc

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OS Full Minors v4.1 (Franchise File)

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Originally Posted by HustlinOwl


	Couple different to try: http://www.sendspace.com/file/875paz http://mfi.re/?w5orzt202yzrmmt

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# 201 abcabc @ 06/28/10 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ferriscj24


	All in all, I am NOT bashing these rosters by any means whatsoever. I admire what these guys do and how they supply them to us out of their own good will. But these stamina edits/issues are, in fact, a problem. I guess I just scratch my head when I read how nobody else seems to think they are. Like I said, I even posted a screen shot of Kazmir with half energy in the tank after 24 pitches in the first. And the response to that was...It has nothing to do with the edits, he has a history of injuries, problem solved. I mean...really!? A starting pitcher can throw 24 pitches and be halfway through the tank? Come on...

well yeah, in my observation, there has not been any prior issues w/ roster playability comments this yr at all that got as many sorta 'what are you smoking' kind of counters... i still think the rosters are insanely awesome and it shows SCEA's lack of resource allocation to this huge aspect of the game/simulation. for that issue you had w/ kazmir i think the energy was about 2/3rds remaining after 23 pitches after coming off a start. the followup to your post was someone saying it's the durability attribute must be low for kazmir, so he doesn't recover as much per rotation. I didnt check his stamina and his durability stat right now but i'm really curious... anyway, iif his stamina is too low to begin w/, then he drains it ALL fast first of all, and his low durability only fills his tank so much. I imagine if his stamina is like 81, then if you start him, pull him after a decent outting of 105pitches and he still has a blip on his energy bar, then next time he rotates, he'll get a bit more bar since he wasn't completely drained to zero. and maybe his durability is needlessly too low, if it impacts recovery time... it would be a stupid attribute to impact recovery time... pitcher's age should impact recovery time. durability should be for injury proneness only.

# 202 strut24 @ 06/28/10 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by miles999


	Here are some SCEA ratings from CAP/missing players: Scott Strickland (FLA) 27-69-63-38-56-71 pitches 4seam 60-75-60 slider 41-73-59 changeup 68-70-56 2seam 69-66-46 Mike Lamb (FLA) 70-51-56-43-12-2-76-60-78-72-41-62-72-70-68-0-6-16 Jason Castro (HOU) 59-55-46-40-39-24-55-49-39-70-50-67-72-59-64-73-38-27

Thanks! hopefully someone can add them. Do you have Carlos Maldonado? Brian Sweeney?

# 203 Ceothachosen1 @ 06/28/10 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Cubit


	I modified the v4 rosters for my own use today, but I thought I'd upload them if anyone else wanted to use them. I used Bohnzo's editor to calculate/edit the stamina ratings for all of the pitchers (SP, RP, and CP) on all the teams to make them closer to how they were before the community stamina edits were introduced. I tried to get all the pitchers, but I know I missed a few lower-level guys that weren't in Bohnzo's editor. The roster is named "v4staminaedits" and you can find it in the vault.

thanks man

# 204 steven @ 06/28/10 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Cubit


	I modified the v4 rosters for my own use today, but I thought I'd upload them if anyone else wanted to use them. I used Bohnzo's editor to calculate/edit the stamina ratings for all of the pitchers (SP, RP, and CP) on all the teams to make them closer to how they were before the community stamina edits were introduced. I tried to get all the pitchers, but I know I missed a few lower-level guys that weren't in Bohnzo's editor. The roster is named "v4staminaedits" and you can find it in the vault.

can u post them on a zip file or rar file so people who dont have internet can get them. Thanks...Nasa

# 205 TheRunAndShoot @ 06/28/10 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by miles999


	nah, SCEA forgot 'em, again... at least last 2 weeks they did a good job, maybe next week... I'll post them here ASAP From fangraphs, Brian Sweeney (SEA) should have 1st pitch changeup 76-78mph 2nd fastball 87-88mph* 3rd slider 81-84mph 4th curveball 71-74mph* *don't know the type of FB or curve From SCEA latest roster update: SP J.Arrieta, 1b T.Everidge, SP B.Lincoln, OF D.Nava, RP/CP J.Sborz, RP M.Zagurski (thought he was already in the game?), 3b D.Valencia, 3b D.Viciedo, SS C.Nelson+ Castro & Strickland

The fastball is a 4 seam. Straight as an arrow, in fact I don't think I've ever seen a pitch that flat. I believe it's a sweeping curve, not much break to it but the change looked good.

# 206 abcabc @ 06/28/10 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Cubit


	I modified the v4 rosters for my own use today, but I thought I'd upload them if anyone else wanted to use them. I used Bohnzo's editor to calculate/edit the stamina ratings for all of the pitchers (SP, RP, and CP) on all the teams to make them closer to how they were before the community stamina edits were introduced. I tried to get all the pitchers, but I know I missed a few lower-level guys that weren't in Bohnzo's editor. The roster is named "v4staminaedits" and you can find it in the vault.

how do the starting pitchers behave now?

# 207 Cubit @ 06/28/10 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by steven


	can u post them on a zip file or rar file so people who dont have internet can get them. Thanks...Nasa

I'll have to do this tomorrow unless anyone else wants to post them tonight.

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Originally Posted by abcabc


	how do the starting pitchers behave now?

Quite good. I'm playing a game with Ryan Dempster right now and he has thrown 60 pitches, and his energy is about at 40-45%. That seems good to me.

# 208 crques @ 06/28/10 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JaSnake16


	V4 is on Sportsconnect as OSFMV4Rerated - this is the original V4 file that myself and TD did based on V3. Contained is all the bells and whistles of precious versions as well as The majority of SCEA players rerated utilizing the Roster Tool program as well as trying to reflect this years performance. TD recently made a few minor corrections after some play on his own to a few relievers (closer durability) and upped David Price's stamina. He posted that as V4MinorCorrections (I think). V4.1 is just an alternative to V4 since there are people in the community that request different stamina ratings other than the ones that Razr used for V3. It will utilize Bahnzo's roster tool to use the stamina rating that it comes up with. This will be completed this week. I may touch up a few things there but nothing earth shattering that will make a difference to V4. I will post those here this way anyone can modify their version to such without having to DL ANOTHER version LOL. Hope this helps.

Yes this helps. Thank you very much.

# 209 crques @ 06/28/10 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Cubit


	I modified the v4 rosters for my own use today, but I thought I'd upload them if anyone else wanted to use them. I used Bohnzo's editor to calculate/edit the stamina ratings for all of the pitchers (SP, RP, and CP) on all the teams to make them closer to how they were before the community stamina edits were introduced. I tried to get all the pitchers, but I know I missed a few lower-level guys that weren't in Bohnzo's editor. The roster is named "v4staminaedits" and you can find it in the vault.

Aside from stamina edits, did you edit or add anything else? Thanks.

# 210 Cubit @ 06/28/10 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by crques


	Aside from stamina edits, did you edit or add anything else? Thanks.

I did not. Stamina was the only area that I wanted to change in OSFMv4. These are such good rosters that the community has made.

# 211 Dean3790 @ 06/28/10 11:42 PM

Well it looks like Cubit has done exactly what I was going to do. I'm gonna DL it, look it over, and make sure the numbers line up with what I had. Hopefully he saved us all some time.

# 212 crques @ 06/28/10 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean3790


	Well it looks like Cubit has done exactly what I was going to do. I'm gonna DL it, look it over, and make sure the numbers line up with what I had. Hopefully he saved us all some time.

Just to clarify.....Cubit's stamina edits are going to become V4.1 you were going to work on once you look at them and compare them to your numbers, or will you be releasing a separate file from his? It's nice to have all these different roster options, but it can get a little confusing trying to figure out which rosters I'm looking for to begin a franchise. LOL

# 213 Kiboshed @ 06/28/10 11:48 PM

hmm how come theres no Fred Lewis on the Jays and Dana Eveland is still in the starting rotation O_O

lewis has been on the jays since April....are the v4.0 that off?

# 214 Dean3790 @ 06/28/10 11:49 PM

It'll all be clear when we post the final product. Basically, Cubit did what I was starting to do. I am going to double check most of it and make sure the numbers line up before I send it to JaSnake and TD, who will then add their changes and release it as v4.1.

WELL, it looks like the numbers aren't lining up. Cubit, how did you get these stamina numbers? They aren't matching up with Bahnzo's. Were you using the weighted rating?

# 215 Cubit @ 06/29/10 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Dean3790


	WELL, it looks like the numbers aren't lining up. Cubit, how did you get these stamina numbers? They aren't matching up with Bahnzo's. Were you using the weighted rating?

For every pitcher, I used the career rating.

# 216 Dean3790 @ 06/29/10 12:03 AM

Okay, this is getting massively confusing. Here is what I am going to do:

Change stamina of STARTING PITCHERS only using Bahnzo's tool.
If the starter has a higher stamina in v4 than according to Bahnzo's tool, I am going to leave it. I will not decrease anyone's stamina, only increase (this is because some of these guys are starters, who, because of their time in the bullpen, may have lower innings pitched than what their actual stamina level should permit [i.e. Fernando Nieve]).
Once I am done doing all the starting pitchers with lower stamina ratings than Bahnzo's numbers, I will send it to TD and JaSnake and they can do what they want from there.

# 217 Cubit @ 06/29/10 12:05 AM

Yeah, that is pretty much what I did, except for RP and CP in addition to the starters. I used the career rating checkbox in Bohnzo's tool to generate the stamina ratings for each pitcher. If it was a higher stamina than what was in the roster, I changed it to the higher stamina. If Bohnzo's tool gave a lower stamina, I left the stamina as is in the roster. I decided I would much rather error on the side of a few points too high when it comes to stamina.

edit: sorry for any confusion.

# 218 Dean3790 @ 06/29/10 12:07 AM

Yeah, TD has his own ideas for relievers. Thanks anyway man.

# 219 Dean3790 @ 06/29/10 12:42 AM

Some starters might have slipped through the cracks if they have changed teams since opening day. Could someone provide me with a list of starting pitchers that have changed teams since opening day?

EDIT- actually, maybe not. I think Bahnzo's tool counts everyone that pitched for a team at all during the year. A list could help too though, to double check.

# 220 DJ @ 06/29/10 01:15 AM

Only thing I've noticed is that you guys have Todd Helton with a glove on his right hand, but he's a lefty.

Loving these rosters; play great so far in my franchise. Had a no-no going with De La Rosa against the Padres before Gwynn Jr. broke it up in the 6th with a bunt! Hudler (I forgot to turn him off) went nuts, talking about how Gwynn Jr. broke baseball etiquette by laying down that bunt. Wound up going 7.2 innings, giving up just 2 hits and striking out 8 in a 2-0 victory.

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