01:44 PM - May 11, 2010 by sin44
TrueGameHeadz have posted their changes that need to be made to the next Fight Night.
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Fight Night Round 5 News Post
01:44 PM - May 11, 2010 by sin44TrueGameHeadz have posted their changes that need to be made to the next Fight Night.
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# 1
CurryStorm @ 05/17/10 12:38 AM
That is a great list; however, I wouldn't hold my breath for any of those things to make it into the next game. It seems like boxing games progress far slower than other sports games.
The thing I thought about before I ever read the article is that I want boxers to have different personalities. The next game needs to have the fighters that talk trash, the ones that are humble, the ones that only fight if the money's right, the ones that will fight whenever and whoever, the ones that stay away from certain styles of fighters- just incorporate as many different personalities as possible.
There needs to be a living, breathing boxing world going on besides just what you, the player, is doing. I'd like to see two fighters talking sh*t to each other and then sign for a big pay-per-view fight where you'd want to watch it unfold even though you're not actually fighting in it. I'd also like to see managers having to negotiate deals instead of you just selecting who you want to fight. You want to get that first title fight? Well, too bad because your manager can't close the deal so you'll need to fire him and pay more for a better manager (which would also give you more to do with the money you make).
Anyway, didn't mean to ramble but I love boxing but even the newer games don't have some of the things that make boxing unique/great. The actual boxing/gameplay is better but I get tired of seeing every fighter throw 200 punches a round- I know EA does this for excitement but it's too "arcady". I would compare the present Fight Night gameplay to a game like NCAA Football if EA changed NCAA so that the majority of games would be decided 100-90 just because it creates more action. Most boxing matches don't have that much action; most come down to one guy trying to out think his opponent. Ok, I'm through... I just want to finally get a game that really represents boxing in, and out of, the ring.
The thing I thought about before I ever read the article is that I want boxers to have different personalities. The next game needs to have the fighters that talk trash, the ones that are humble, the ones that only fight if the money's right, the ones that will fight whenever and whoever, the ones that stay away from certain styles of fighters- just incorporate as many different personalities as possible.
There needs to be a living, breathing boxing world going on besides just what you, the player, is doing. I'd like to see two fighters talking sh*t to each other and then sign for a big pay-per-view fight where you'd want to watch it unfold even though you're not actually fighting in it. I'd also like to see managers having to negotiate deals instead of you just selecting who you want to fight. You want to get that first title fight? Well, too bad because your manager can't close the deal so you'll need to fire him and pay more for a better manager (which would also give you more to do with the money you make).
Anyway, didn't mean to ramble but I love boxing but even the newer games don't have some of the things that make boxing unique/great. The actual boxing/gameplay is better but I get tired of seeing every fighter throw 200 punches a round- I know EA does this for excitement but it's too "arcady". I would compare the present Fight Night gameplay to a game like NCAA Football if EA changed NCAA so that the majority of games would be decided 100-90 just because it creates more action. Most boxing matches don't have that much action; most come down to one guy trying to out think his opponent. Ok, I'm through... I just want to finally get a game that really represents boxing in, and out of, the ring.
So he wants the 2K5 of boxing? I wish. Maybe 2K can actually do it.
I think there is a myth that all these games need is ESPN presentation and the experience would be greatly heightened. Something that NFL 2K5 did was introduce a major sports brand (ESPN) like we have never seen before. It wasn't just a screen overlay either. They accomplished a lot with how they incorporated ESPN.
Ever since then, and specifically with EA (because they landed the deal with ESPN), we have wanted to see that done in sports games across the board. However, consider a game like EA's NCAA Basketball. They implemented ESPN presentation and now they aren't making the game anymore. That's not all on the incorporation of ESPN, but it does show if the game is lacking it's going nowhere.
Personally, I think a Friday Night Fights type feel would work great, but not every fight. Make it something to look forward to. But that's not going to cut it either. There has to be a seamless feel in the experience that incorporates a fresh look every time you play. the way to do this can be seen in again looking at 2K Sports and what they have done with NBA and MLB 2K. On a fighter's entrance, have the commentator mention his record. Talk about when he fought last. Even during the fight, have the commentator pull up a fighter's tendencies.
This is where the game has to go deeper. Slapping ESPN on it isn't the answer.
Ever since then, and specifically with EA (because they landed the deal with ESPN), we have wanted to see that done in sports games across the board. However, consider a game like EA's NCAA Basketball. They implemented ESPN presentation and now they aren't making the game anymore. That's not all on the incorporation of ESPN, but it does show if the game is lacking it's going nowhere.
Personally, I think a Friday Night Fights type feel would work great, but not every fight. Make it something to look forward to. But that's not going to cut it either. There has to be a seamless feel in the experience that incorporates a fresh look every time you play. the way to do this can be seen in again looking at 2K Sports and what they have done with NBA and MLB 2K. On a fighter's entrance, have the commentator mention his record. Talk about when he fought last. Even during the fight, have the commentator pull up a fighter's tendencies.
This is where the game has to go deeper. Slapping ESPN on it isn't the answer.
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People on these forums have been begging for better presentation from all EA sports games for years and haven't got it because quite honestly they don't give a rats behind about it. Madden, Live, TW pga tour, fight night, fifa are all examples of their poor implementation of presentation.
The guy who wrote the article has some really great ideas but i honestly tell yall without a shadow of a doubt that you will NEVER see those things in an EA sports game.
The guy who wrote the article has some really great ideas but i honestly tell yall without a shadow of a doubt that you will NEVER see those things in an EA sports game.
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I think presentation is low hanging fruit for this franchise and should've been implemented a long time ago.
More emphasis on the career of a boxer and all it takes to make it in the ring, in a word preparation.
More emphasis on the career of a boxer and all it takes to make it in the ring, in a word preparation.
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Champions are made and carved in training camps and preparing for fights. That's the one area that's never been done in any boxing game but needs to.
I can't tell you how bored I am with the generic training/point grabs that exist in every boxing title (with the exception of VB2).
Sparring, watching tape, diet, training all need to be incorporated for Rd5.
Getting a fighter in peak condition or hitting that 'sweet spot' just before a fight is crucial in pro boxing. The gamer should feel that and understand it.
The training camp aspect should be deeper and more rewarding than the fight itself.
If casual fans don't like it, just implement a CPU-controlled camp so they can ignore that part of the game.
But I do love the ideas this writer brought up. I desperately want a weekly show that rounds out all the latest fights, belts changing hands and ratings, etc.
They need to get rid of Haymakers and speacial punches. This in itself makes the game un-realistic. Haymakers should be user controlled not an animation that requires minimal user input. And special punches should be left to titles like Street Fighter.
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Beastly Wayz @ 08/04/10 03:19 PM
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Fighters shouldn't always be squared up. You should be able to be side on with your opponent when you side step. I'm probably not explaining this right but hopefully someone else understands me.
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I need them to fix the fighting before they touch any of that stuff. Better, quicker footwork, easier punching as promised, better defense & punching in the clinch are my must haves. Closing that counter window, rating each punch-type separately & adding more power to the straight right are very high on my list as well.
As for presentation, I want a stationary camera that shows most, if not all of the ring. I hate the swinging close up views.
But yeah, all that stuff would be great if the action in the ring is improved.
As for presentation, I want a stationary camera that shows most, if not all of the ring. I hate the swinging close up views.
But yeah, all that stuff would be great if the action in the ring is improved.
I need Floyd in this game man. Mayweather would make this game much more interesting but I guess he asked for too much cash. Sucks because maybe if he was on it I would be tempted to buy or rent it.
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I think Visual Concepts would have really smashed Fight Night Round 4 easily!
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antifanboy @ 09/20/10 01:19 PM
If theres no Mayweather (looks like he's ducking Pacquiao in video games too, lol) EA needs to ease up on the buy-a-boxer thing.
Why do we have to pay for certain boxers? We are already doling out 60 bucks, how about just leave the DLC stuff for boxing arenas and trunks.
Put in as many boxers as possible since the roster is already so limited. I mean they had like 2 guys from the lower weight classes in FN4 which sucked ***.
Why do we have to pay for certain boxers? We are already doling out 60 bucks, how about just leave the DLC stuff for boxing arenas and trunks.
Put in as many boxers as possible since the roster is already so limited. I mean they had like 2 guys from the lower weight classes in FN4 which sucked ***.
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