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# 41 EnigmaNemesis @ 03/08/10 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Padgoi
Anyone please help with this?

When logged into sports connect, there is an option now on a list that says "save online roster file" or something to that effect.

You have to manually do it. It does not pop up and ask you automatically like last year.

Also for the player potential discussions and age etc... I think potential has a lot more to do with AI trade logic and roster management than it does with how the player performs in game. The performance in game is based on stats.

Jeter is an A, because you know he is a Yankee for life, and it prevents him from ending up on a waiver wire or with another team.
 
# 42 callmetaternuts @ 03/08/10 11:52 AM
At work and can't check, but are player positions messed up? The most notable one was Jeter in CF. How will that affect games/franchises that we play? I dont want Jeter yanked in every game (I play as Rays, but still want realism)
 
# 43 GoBucs09 @ 03/08/10 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by ocho cuatro
They didn't fix this yet????

That's miserable. So every team has on average 4 elite pitchers in their minor league system.
Sounds like I'll be waiting for the "IF" patch. And if not then I might consider going back to 09

They still have time before April, I'll wait till then.
 
# 44 wahoo138 @ 03/08/10 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by thinkblue_09
I ran a quick sim to see if the Roster update would help with trade logic..........It did not same bad trades being made.
Hmm. You'd think the guys at SCEA would have the capability to try such an advanced testing system.


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Originally Posted by thinkblue_09
Right now the trade logic seems to be set up out of whack, and that's to say they value money and contract years remaing and potential higher than production. So they take A. Pujols who might be an A potential but is entering the final year of his contract and will be wanting a lot of money. So they ship him for some prospects who have a couple years remaining and require less salary but still have an A potential.
I wonder if turning "ignore budgets" on would have any effect on this?

Either way, I don't want to get involved with a franchise mode that has all these extra "A" potential players hovering in the minor leagues. It doesn't take a genius to imagine how unrecognizable your league will be in a few years.

As I said previously, it looks like single Season mode with user control on all 30 teams is the only way you are going to get a realistic simulation of an extended MLB experience in this game as it stands.

I'm wondering if it's even worth Knight and those guys bothering with all the minor leaguers this year. If these issues (the minor league player potential and trade logic) don't get corrected it's not going to matter if there are prospects or not. I'll just be playing some version of the 2010 season perpetually.
 
# 45 TheRock88 @ 03/08/10 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by callmetaternuts
At work and can't check, but are player positions messed up? The most notable one was Jeter in CF. How will that affect games/franchises that we play? I dont want Jeter yanked in every game (I play as Rays, but still want realism)
Yes, they're still messed up. Just edit the positions from the roster menu before going into a franchise and they should stick.
 
# 46 ocho cuatro @ 03/08/10 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by GoBucs09
Sounds like I'll be waiting for the "IF" patch. And if not then I might consider going back to 09

They still have time before April, I'll wait till then.

To be clear, we don't need a patch to address the potential issue.

They simply could have fixed the rosters for today's update by giving more of the current players an A potential, and leaving around 25 or so in the minors as the top prospects. That would solved a lot of the trade issues.

So maybe this will get fixed next week. I'm just a little disappointed because I LOVE this game so much, and I wanted to get started on my franchise this week.
 
# 47 thinkblue_09 @ 03/08/10 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TheRock88
Yes, they're still messed up. Just edit the positions from the roster menu before going into a franchise and they should stick.
I don't see the player position errors. For me Jeter is at SS and I simed a little to see if that changes and he's still at SS in June.
 
# 48 aga11ah @ 03/08/10 12:06 PM
can someone upload it?
 
# 49 HokieB @ 03/08/10 12:06 PM
Don't know if Potential had anything to do with it or not, but can someone check to see if the lineups still get all screwed up after Spring Training?

For instance, see if Rollins is batting 6th for the Phillies.
 
# 50 wahoo138 @ 03/08/10 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ocho cuatro
To be clear, we don't need a patch to address the potential issue.

They simply could have fixed the rosters for today's update by giving more of the current players an A potential, and leaving around 25 or so in the minors as the top prospects. That would solved a lot of the trade issues.

So maybe this will get fixed next week. I'm just a little disappointed because I LOVE this game so much, and I wanted to get started on my franchise this week.
That's basically where I'm at too here. I'm venting a little bit, but not angry per se. I'd like someone to tell me that my concerns aren't really valid and that multiple seasons can be run realistically with this the way it is.

I just don't understand why they couldn't have made sure they got this potential thing fixed correctly with this roster. They've know about the issue for 5 days or so. We're not talking about a monumental task. It's as if they did just enough to get by instead of doing it RIGHT, which is out of character for this group.
 
# 51 R3BeL @ 03/08/10 12:09 PM
Does anyone know where I can get the full list of tranactions that SCEA does each time they upload a new roster every Monday? I do my rosters myself so I just need the transactions.
 
# 52 EnigmaNemesis @ 03/08/10 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by callmetaternuts
At work and can't check, but are player positions messed up? The most notable one was Jeter in CF. How will that affect games/franchises that we play? I dont want Jeter yanked in every game (I play as Rays, but still want realism)

Yep, that is still messed up. You just need to enter their defensive positioning, and save it.,

Also it said Gil Velasquez for the Sawx put into Free Agency which it shouldn't cause he is still with the team on AAA. But in the roster he is there, so that is a good thing.

Some weird thing going on with their Rosters this year.
 
# 53 Hurricane4747 @ 03/08/10 12:21 PM
While this is very annoying with the rosters not having correct potential along with the messed up trade logic, it's not a total game killer for me. Although I do wish these game companies could figure out how to make a game right before they release it, I don't have a problem waiting another month for release if that means they fix these issues right away before release.

This all being said the potential thing is rediculous.. maybe they need to learn from NHL 10 for EA sports... perfect potential system in that game and how it works. Potential changes yearly based off age and performance, they can figure it out (which is rare that EA Sports figures anything out... given what Madden has become)

Trade stuff I haven't experienced but I don't sim seasons and play games so I was only up to 23rd game of the season in my franchise and at least didn't see anything at all messed up or trades happening without me doing it. Maybe if I got later in the season I'd see this, but I never experienced the problem.

Point is while all this stuff sucks, maybe people just need to relax and enjoy the game for what it is. If you don't like it, then trade it in and get MLB 2k10, but we all know you'd be even more upset with that game. Some people will be upset no matter what they get... don't be one of them please people.
 
# 54 firktaf @ 03/08/10 12:21 PM
Am I the only one that remembers that potential is not static this year? Players that over-perform and under-perform are supposed to have their potential rating change. So, while there are probably too many A potential prospects and it's heavily favored towards pitchers, there's no guarantee that they'll pan out as such unlike in previous years.
 
# 55 pistolpete @ 03/08/10 12:23 PM
Play 29-game seasons. The cpu almost never trades.
 
# 56 EnigmaNemesis @ 03/08/10 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by firktaf
Am I the only one that remembers that potential is not static this year? Players that over-perform and under-perform are supposed to have their potential rating change. So, while there are probably too many A potential prospects and it's heavily favored towards pitchers, there's no guarantee that they'll pan out as such unlike in previous years.

Yes, this is how it is said to be done this year.
 
# 57 econoodle @ 03/08/10 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by R3BeL
Does anyone know where I can get the full list of tranactions that SCEA does each time they upload a new roster every Monday? I do my rosters myself so I just need the transactions.

log into sportsconnect. it will be right there.
its massage two today.
 
# 58 R3BeL @ 03/08/10 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by econoodle
log into sportsconnect. it will be right there.
its massage two today.
Thanks man.
 
# 59 tabarnes19_SDS @ 03/08/10 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by firktaf
Am I the only one that remembers that potential is not static this year? Players that over-perform and under-perform are supposed to have their potential rating change. So, while there are probably too many A potential prospects and it's heavily favored towards pitchers, there's no guarantee that they'll pan out as such unlike in previous years.
I honestly don't think potential will matter any way as far as people worrying the A prospects will take over the roster.

This year players are not promoted even in the offseason. I had Strasburg who was the best player on the Nats...in year 3 of the franchise still in AA and not on 40 man.

In all my sims only time they get called up is to fill a position due to retirement or injury or trade.

Multiple season franchises are tough because you will find Strasburg make 8 mil in AA not on 40 with 0 years MLB service time.

Sim ahead a couple years and you will see tons of A prospects making millions of dollars not on 40 man rosters.
 
# 60 JermaineDye05 @ 03/08/10 12:29 PM
One potential that seems a bit off is Omar Vizquel who has an 'A' potential. I realize he's a HOF but that seems a bit high. However, he'll more than likely retire after the first season you play.

Quentin seems a bit low with a 'C' potential, although he is at least up from his 'D' potential. It's understandable though since Quentin needs to prove this season that 2008 was no fluke. Then will his potential be back to where it should be.
 


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