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Backbreaker Trailer: On the Field

04:23 PM - January 6, 2010 by MelMan1486

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# 21 wrigleyville33 @ 01/06/10 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by spankdatazz22


	The game needs a hook with all the disadvantages it has. The hardcore here may not want to hear it, but those free-form big hits may be enough to draw out some casual purchases. It shouldn't be expected that it's going to get most base football concepts correct on their first pass. I know people will hate to hear it, but Madden had back-foot passing in their game for years into next gen. At the very least this may be a case study on why it's next to futile for any developer to attempt making a non-licensed football game. I think there's a lot of unrealistic expectations riding on the title

I'm sure this will be a slider based game, for me at least. I absolutely love the catch animations; as you can tell the receiver actually looks the ball in, and uses soft hands on the catch. Still waiting for more to come.

# 22 polamalu82 @ 01/06/10 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sportyguyfl31


	Not loving those fadeaway passes.

I read on the BB forum that they made the video with user control. What I mean is that the backfoot passes were due to the user throwing before the QB's steps were complete. This should however negatively effect the accuracy of the pass, not to mention the timing of the play.

# 23 LingeringRegime @ 01/06/10 09:42 PM

I hope that the "Break Records" comment means that there will be a deep statistical tracking element to the game.

# 24 CreatineKasey @ 01/06/10 10:22 PM

Despite player stiffness and fadeaway passes, this game looked really really fun! Everything looked smooth and the interactions looked very solid. That got me really jacked to play this game. From what I saw, it looks like the big hit frequency thing will not be an issue, the tackles looked more reasonable there.

# 25 HesTheCoach @ 01/06/10 10:41 PM

I just want to see in-game footage, not just quick cutscenes and footage. I will say the passing game looks a little iffy.

I noticed in the earlier trailer that DB's looked like they were standing in cement when the WR's caught balls downfield.

# 26 Glorious Arc @ 01/06/10 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by NDIrish98


	i have yet to see a runner break a tackle. the only things i see are big hits and jukes. if anyone else has seen a broken tackle, let me know.

I suppose the statement should be "We have yet to see a RB truck at all" They have yet to show a power back try and go head to head with someone and that is something I am very interested in seeing.

There is very brief footage from the E3 video that shows the players breaking out of a tackle and also being tackled and losing balance only to put his hand on the ground to try and get more yards.

0:34 guy breaks out of a tackle
0:41-43 #42 has a defender fall off his back as he runs forward
0:43-46 guy plants his hand to regain balance(it almost looks like he slipped the defender a roofie or something because he is just laying on the ground after falling down and he then trips over the body)

# 27 Jump @ 01/06/10 11:36 PM

Looks pretty good, but not good enough to garner a sequel. The average gamer will just see Madden without NFL players.

I might get it.

# 28 Hammerhunker @ 01/06/10 11:44 PM

To each their own, but I don't see how this game is going to make it. There is nothing from that trailer that would convince me to drop 60 bucks.

And why Backbreaker for a name? Stupid. But that's just me.

# 29 Senor_Herbatron @ 01/07/10 01:21 AM

Game definitely looks solid. I hope you have the ability to edit teams, logos, etc....

I'll definitely be checking this game out.

# 30 KG @ 01/07/10 10:27 AM

Player models are beyond horrible but the locomotion looks pretty good.

# 31 Cryolemon @ 01/07/10 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by houtz


	Game definitely looks solid. I hope you have the ability to edit teams, logos, etc.... I'll definitely be checking this game out.

I'm guessing you have the ability to edit all that stuff. It's been confirmed you can edit logos.

# 32 TreyIM2 @ 01/07/10 01:10 PM

I'll re-state what I've said about the reasoning behind this game - Proof of concept for EA. I still believe this game was only created at the request of EA when EA turned down Natural Motion, initially. The condition was that if Nat. Mot. could create a viable football game with the Euphoria engine they would bring it in for a future Madden. There was no way EA would bring this engine in without it being proven it could work in a football game, first, because they were not going to spend money and resources on bringing it in and trying to get it to work in-house. This is a one and done game, based on what I've felt from the beginning. HOPEFULLY, it will pan out and we could see this engine in Madden down the road but the way it looks as is, so far from all the vids I've seen, it's not looking so spectacular but it's only vids and they really haven't showed true gameplay, yet. We'll see.

# 33 Hova57 @ 01/07/10 01:32 PM

Let's say for S and G that EA buys it. How long would it take it took about two years to get to the point that we are seeing. now. is it worth it

# 34 allBthere @ 01/07/10 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TreyIM2


	I'll re-state what I've said about the reasoning behind this game - Proof of concept for EA. I still believe this game was only created at the request of EA when EA turned down Natural Motion, initially. The condition was that if Nat. Mot. could create a viable football game with the Euphoria engine they would bring it in for a future Madden. There was no way EA would bring this engine in without it being proven it could work in a football game, first, because they were not going to spend money and resources on bringing it in and trying to get it to work in-house. This is a one and done game, based on what I've felt from the beginning. HOPEFULLY, it will pan out and we could see this engine in Madden down the road but the way it looks as is, so far from all the vids I've seen, it's not looking so spectacular but it's only vids and they really haven't showed true gameplay, yet. We'll see.

you're talking out of your behind man. EA 'requested' natural motion to make a game? EA never saw the value in the technology where a less lazy company like rockstar did immediately. Natural Motion got 505 games as publisher - if it was really a pet project of EA - they would have published it or payed for it.
505 wouldn't really be down with your scenario either.

IMO the cost of making BB, selling it and distributing it > license to use euphoria.

While it's true that almost all developers or industry people will check out backbreaker, and they could push more license packages, it's just arrogant to ASSUME they made the game because EA requested it - especially since the game (player models etc.) look just like those early blue guys from the NM demonstration. HAd nothing to do with EA. They also showed a karate guy in that vid too, and later Indiana Jones was in development by a different company. They believe in their product and more than anything, are proving that a smaller development team can make good games using the technology (which makes development easier).

I hope we see combat games soon using euphoria as well.

# 35 stiffarmleft @ 01/07/10 02:10 PM

I'm just happy to see players plant their feet when they make hard cuts. I also liked how close the ball got to the defenders hand, without be intercepted, being able to fit the ball into tight spaces and lofting it over linebackers should really elevate the passing game. If the player ratings matter and the AI doesn't have any glaring weaknesses, this game should be a winner. The players do look a little stiff when running, but I've definitely seen more that I like than dislike in the trailers.

# 36 SouthernBrick @ 01/07/10 03:35 PM

I like the new vid but, Its a hype vid, No doubt the the motion of the players out beat Madden anyday but, the jukes look stiff. I smaller players get lower than that when juking but, overall It looks like It'll be a fun game. Not all the hits were over the top missile style hits and It looks like they do have so different type pads and bodies for customization.

I trust that the gameplay will likely beat out madden's animations but, hope to see lower jukes in the future though. Also the sounds are pretty clean Imo because, pads are going to pop and guys are not going to be silent when they get hit regaurdless of how hard.

# 37 TreyIM2 @ 01/07/10 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by allBthere


	you're talking out of your behind man. EA 'requested' natural motion to make a game? EA never saw the value in the technology where a less lazy company like rockstar did immediately. Natural Motion got 505 games as publisher - if it was really a pet project of EA - they would have published it or payed for it. 505 wouldn't really be down with your scenario either. IMO the cost of making BB, selling it and distributing it > license to use euphoria. While it's true that almost all developers or industry people will check out backbreaker, and they could push more license packages, it's just arrogant to ASSUME they made the game because EA requested it - especially since the game (player models etc.) look just like those early blue guys from the NM demonstration. HAd nothing to do with EA. They also showed a karate guy in that vid too, and later Indiana Jones was in development by a different company. They believe in their product and more than anything, are proving that a smaller development team can make good games using the technology (which makes development easier). I hope we see combat games soon using euphoria as well.

Now who exactly sounds like the arrogant one, here? There were two key words I said at the beginning of my second sentence "I ...believe" meaning that it is an OPINION not fact yet you come at me talking stating "you're talking out of your behind man" and "it's just arrogant to ASSUME..." as if what YOU are stating IS fact, eh? Aren't YOU assuming as well? But I bet you're not calling yourself arrogant for what you ASSUME or even arrogant for attacking me as if what YOU are stating is the fact of all facts. At least I stated that what I was saying is something I believe which SHOULD be ASSUMED to be an opinion. Or is it a FACT that stating that what I believe is an opinion when using the very words "I believe"? Or am I NOT entitled to MY opinion just like YOU are entitled to YOUR opinion? Go riddle yourself with that one, child.

Yea, I love idiotic, hypocrites...

# 38 Hammerhunker @ 01/07/10 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by hatisback


	And why does Madden say its simulation football? Stupid if you ask me.

We're not talking about Madden, stay on topic. We are giving our response to the Backbreaker trailer.

# 39 allBthere @ 01/08/10 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by TreyIM2


	Now who exactly sounds like the arrogant one, here? There were two key words I said at the beginning of my second sentence "I ...believe" meaning that it is an OPINION not fact yet you come at me talking stating "you're talking out of your behind man" and "it's just arrogant to ASSUME..." as if what YOU are stating IS fact, eh? Aren't YOU assuming as well? But I bet you're not calling yourself arrogant for what you ASSUME or even arrogant for attacking me as if what YOU are stating is the fact of all facts. At least I stated that what I was saying is something I believe which SHOULD be ASSUMED to be an opinion. Or is it a FACT that stating that what I believe is an opinion when using the very words "I believe"? Or am I NOT entitled to MY opinion just like YOU are entitled to YOUR opinion? Go riddle yourself with that one, child. Yea, I love idiotic, hypocrites...

looks like i touched a nerve.
ok, have fun with your riddle.

# 40 shavane @ 01/08/10 11:04 AM

I had my doubts about this game but after seeing the on the field trailer I am stoked. If they get the high level of customization required so that we can create our favorite teams and players to at least a 90 to 95% accuracy I don't see how this game can fail. The action just looks so much more robust and in your face than Madden. The sweeping view of the stadium looks just like a NFL stadium and it seems like its captured the atmosphere and excitement of a actual football game. Something 2k5 did well but Madden has never been able to do. I hope that the control scheme is smooth and easy to pick up. I also hope that the AI responds realistically so that we have a viable subsitute for Madden. I think with a lot of the negative response to Madden this year concerning outdated graphics, gameplay, and physics that BB is primed to carve out a nice niche for itself in the football video game community. I for one am sold already and look forward to playing my friends and family when you see one of those big hits or crazy runs.

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