11:39 AM - November 17, 2009 by bluengold34_OS
NCAA Basketball 10 is now available, post your impressions here.
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11:39 AM - November 17, 2009 by bluengold34_OSNCAA Basketball 10 Videos
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I was enjoying up until last night and then it happened.
Usually, freezing issues are addressed quickly with a patch so hopefully EA really gets to it fast. I haven't had much, if any freezes, but the stuttering during replays is absolutely atrocious. I mean, seriously, did they not see how badly it stutters during their testing? It would be so nice for the presentation to actually "flow." Please, please EA....fix this. As for everything else, I'm having a blast with this game.
Doubt EA can fix this issue since last year was affected already (and Nba Live too), and never knowledge officially...
Wow, I can't believe all the issues people have been having with this game. I asked for it for Christmas and since I didn't really ask for much else I expect to probably get it, so I'm wondering whether or not I should just try to return it unopened or not.
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Caliparty Love @ 12/01/09 07:58 PM
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Behindshadows @ 12/02/09 01:55 AM
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deadlyCane @ 12/02/09 07:42 AM
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Thanks.
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techsistah @ 12/02/09 11:25 AM
Enjoying playing the game since owning for 3 days however, I do hope EA addresses that EA addresses the freezing issues quickly with a patch. I have encountered several times in play now, tournament, and dynasty games.
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Ever since I saw those presentation videos I REALLY wanted this game to be good, maybe even more than Madden. I knew it wouldn't be perfect but as long there was no "gamebreakers" it would be a guaranteed buy. After enjoying the demo (presentation gave me a semi 
) I held off initially due to the lacklustre reviews and the 3pt/post issues but couldn't shake the extreme desire I have for this game. A lot of it due to the positivity on here and talk of it being as good as CH 2K8. The no patch news has dented this, but it's still there........ bad.
So my question is this. Just how bad is the not passing out of the post? It's the one thing that's making me hold out. Everything else I know I can live with.
From a lot of time with the demo the AI seems to drive down and pass once into the post followed by a quick shot by the player in the post on probably 60% of possessions. I've actually seen quite a few 3's (granted not enough) but was just wondering if this similar in the full game with other teams. Is it better/worse on different difficulties? It seems sliders don't help (really can't face editing every players ratings). Probably most importantly, is it something you can overlook as the rest of the game makes up for it.......... mostly? From reading the thread I would say it's 50/50 for guys with the game at the minute.
Did I say how much I REALLY want this game, but the post issue concerns me enough to hold out. I'm also really enjoying CH 2K8 a lot again after it sitting on the shelf for a few months, so my desperation has lessened a bit.
It's just that damn presentation....................
Any advice appreciated.
) I held off initially due to the lacklustre reviews and the 3pt/post issues but couldn't shake the extreme desire I have for this game. A lot of it due to the positivity on here and talk of it being as good as CH 2K8. The no patch news has dented this, but it's still there........ bad.So my question is this. Just how bad is the not passing out of the post? It's the one thing that's making me hold out. Everything else I know I can live with.
From a lot of time with the demo the AI seems to drive down and pass once into the post followed by a quick shot by the player in the post on probably 60% of possessions. I've actually seen quite a few 3's (granted not enough) but was just wondering if this similar in the full game with other teams. Is it better/worse on different difficulties? It seems sliders don't help (really can't face editing every players ratings). Probably most importantly, is it something you can overlook as the rest of the game makes up for it.......... mostly? From reading the thread I would say it's 50/50 for guys with the game at the minute.
Did I say how much I REALLY want this game, but the post issue concerns me enough to hold out. I'm also really enjoying CH 2K8 a lot again after it sitting on the shelf for a few months, so my desperation has lessened a bit.
It's just that damn presentation....................
Any advice appreciated.
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ralphieboy11 @ 12/02/09 04:45 PM
Just my opinion, if you are on 360 I would avoid it because of the freezing issues. On PS3 it's great. In the demo the reason you don't see as many post shots is because Duke and UNC both are set to up tempo and have some high rated 3 point shooters. Where the post issue seems to come into play more is the mid majors and lesser known teams. They play balanced or half court tempo and they don't have enough high rated 3 point shooters to take many. I think you will need to tweak some ratings and sliders if you really want it to play more realistic. That can be done. Even without doing that, I think it's one of the more enjoyable games I've ever played, but I love college hoops.
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bluengold34_OS @ 12/02/09 04:47 PM
Bro..its so hard to "advise" someone else to spend $60 of their money for a game. I will say even with the Post issues, and the freezing issues( I have had it freeze 0 times ) and some of the other small issues....
I am still having a blast with this title 3 weeks after release. I overlook the issues, have a good set of sliders to help( not fix) with the post problems, and just enjoy it for what it is.
I played 3 games in a row last night....and enjoyed every minute of it.
I am still having a blast with this title 3 weeks after release. I overlook the issues, have a good set of sliders to help( not fix) with the post problems, and just enjoy it for what it is.
I played 3 games in a row last night....and enjoyed every minute of it.
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stlstudios189 @ 12/02/09 07:05 PM
I just played another great game winning @ Pitt 62-58 with Toledo I can't explain it but, this game is just plain fun. I am 2-2 in my dynasty and just want to play the game again tonight.
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deadlyCane @ 12/02/09 08:30 PM
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mindblowin @ 12/02/09 10:48 PM
I'm a 2K fanatic, but this game is downright fun. I'm playing G'town at Louisville and yes it has it flaws, but it is an enjoyable game. I've been reading all the posts talking abou the rosters, game freezes, dump in post, etc, but I really don't have any complaints. I just can't see myself still playing 2K8 and it is almost 2010. Yes that game was fun, but this is fun and I think EA is headed in the right direction. The broadcast is there, they just have to fix the gameplay and you will have a perfect game. Or, let 2K have it back and they will produce a sweet product. I'm thinking about starting a dynasty with Northwestern!
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Then I was watching the Illinois vs Clemson game (same thing happens with any ESPN game) and, after a few more games on the demo, that need came rushing back. I've accepted that I'm just going to have to get it out of my system and give it a shot. It's just that damn presentation. It's what I've always wanted in a sports game since 2K5 football did it so well with a proper network, though I have to say CH 2K8 and NBA 2K10 are pretty special in that area.
If the issues do bother me that much, on ebay it'll go. Nothing ventured, nothing gained!
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I am having a blast with this game!
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deadlyCane @ 12/03/09 02:58 PM
Travis, once again thanks a lot for posting your stats so we can all see what’s happening. I must say your overall FGA attempt number looks more or less in line with what I would expect from a typical real life NCAA game. Your FGA and low FTA numbers lead me to believe you play a balanced or slow tempo game. As anticipated, your 3FGA numbers are off just like others are observing.
I added up your total numbers, which leave me to understand that your cpu opponents are averaging 10.5 3FGA per game against you. I also see that 18.58% of your opponents’ FGA are from 3FGA. Both numbers are a little higher than my small sample of three games in which I recorded stats for my games before I started adjusting 3PT ratings. I was averaging 8 3FGA per game against me and 13.4% of my opponent FGA attempts coming from 3FGA. Yeah, I know this sample is small but I had anecdotal evidence from the previous games, which led me to start tracking stats and looking for a solution.
I still contend that both your averages and mine prior to adjusting ratings are not realistic when compared to how college basketball is truly played. See the table below for stats for the entire 2008/2009 season:
According to the table above, the top 3 teams averaged over 26 3FGA a game. As an aside, last night Michigan attempted 34 3FGA in it’s 62 to 58 loss to Boston College. Getting back on topic, the three top 3-point shooting schools from last year had over 47.75% of their shots come from 3 point land. That’s a little extreme so let’s look at the middle of the pack. The middle teams, ranked 171 of 343 teams, averaged over 17 3FGA to 18.5 3FGA. That’s a far cry from the 10.5 averaged against you and even more than what was averaged against me prior to my ratings changes. Another key stat, maybe even more important than absolute 3FGA numbers, is the percentage of their FGA that came from 3FGA. The middle three teams all averaged over 32% with Georgetown averaging a lofty 36.37%. That’s twice as much as what you saw in your games.
Now let’s look at the bottom of the barrel teams in terms of 3-point shooting. Evansville was by far the worse with 10.03 3FGA per game in 2008/2009. Next we had 341st ranked Detroit and 342nd ranked Yale averaging 11.63 and 12.07 respectively. This would mean that your combined opponents’ average would be next to last in the NCAA. That’s just not realistic. Zeroing in on the percentage of FGA that were taken from 3FGA stat, your opponents stats when combined is at 18.58%. That would put your opponents way worse than the most pathetic 3-point shooting school in the country last year, namely Evansville.
I’ve seen a satisfactory increase when playing teams for which I’ve raised the 3 point ratings of select players. This seems to be a very good solution since a lot of players’ 3 point ratings are under-rated in the default rosters anyway. I think we would even see further improvement, albeit slight, if EA fixes the cpu catching and shooting in the post issue. At least the proportion of shots taken as 3FGA would improve a little. This would give the perimeter players another chance to attempt open jumpers and threes when their bigs are doubled and have to pass it out. Nevertheless, as much as I still enjoy this game and am addicted to it, this game as shipped does not reflect this very important aspect of college basketball.
I added up your total numbers, which leave me to understand that your cpu opponents are averaging 10.5 3FGA per game against you. I also see that 18.58% of your opponents’ FGA are from 3FGA. Both numbers are a little higher than my small sample of three games in which I recorded stats for my games before I started adjusting 3PT ratings. I was averaging 8 3FGA per game against me and 13.4% of my opponent FGA attempts coming from 3FGA. Yeah, I know this sample is small but I had anecdotal evidence from the previous games, which led me to start tracking stats and looking for a solution.
I still contend that both your averages and mine prior to adjusting ratings are not realistic when compared to how college basketball is truly played. See the table below for stats for the entire 2008/2009 season:
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ABBREVIATED 2008/2009 3FGA RANKINGS BY TEAM TOP 3 SCHOOLS WITH MOST 3FGA Rank School fga 3fga 3fga/Game 3fga_%_of_fga 1 VMI 2,279 1224 38 53.71% 2 Belmont 1,961 950 28.78 48.44% 3 Michigan 1,910 912 26.05 47.75% MIDDLE OF PACK SCHOOLS IN 3FGA Rank School fga 3fga 3fga/Game 3fga_%_of_fga 171 Georgetown 1,581 575 18.5 36.37% 171 Binghampton 1,764 575 17.96 32.60% 171 Minnesota 1,772 575 17.42 32.45% BOTTOM 3 SCHOOLS IN 3FGA Rank School fga 3fga 3fga/Game 3fga_%_of_fga 341 Detroit 1,465 341 11.63 23.28% 342 Yale 1,448 338 12.07 23.34% 343 Evansville 1,642 311 10.03 18.94% LOWEST BCS SCHOOL IN 3FGA Rank School fga 3fga 3fga/Game 3fga_%_of_fga 332 Wake Forest 1,849 394 12.7 21.31% Source: http://statsheet.com/mcb
Now let’s look at the bottom of the barrel teams in terms of 3-point shooting. Evansville was by far the worse with 10.03 3FGA per game in 2008/2009. Next we had 341st ranked Detroit and 342nd ranked Yale averaging 11.63 and 12.07 respectively. This would mean that your combined opponents’ average would be next to last in the NCAA. That’s just not realistic. Zeroing in on the percentage of FGA that were taken from 3FGA stat, your opponents stats when combined is at 18.58%. That would put your opponents way worse than the most pathetic 3-point shooting school in the country last year, namely Evansville.
I’ve seen a satisfactory increase when playing teams for which I’ve raised the 3 point ratings of select players. This seems to be a very good solution since a lot of players’ 3 point ratings are under-rated in the default rosters anyway. I think we would even see further improvement, albeit slight, if EA fixes the cpu catching and shooting in the post issue. At least the proportion of shots taken as 3FGA would improve a little. This would give the perimeter players another chance to attempt open jumpers and threes when their bigs are doubled and have to pass it out. Nevertheless, as much as I still enjoy this game and am addicted to it, this game as shipped does not reflect this very important aspect of college basketball.
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