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Madden NFL 10 Impressions (Pasta Padre)

09:57 PM - June 5, 2009 by Smoke316

Pasta Padre has posted his impressions of Madden NFL 10.

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	"The CPU AI is immensely improved from what I saw on All-Pro difficulty. The CPU was throwing the deep ball, breaking off big runs, and mixing up the play calling. Going up against that for the first time caught me off guard and I ended up paying the price. Surely there will be weaknesses found but I was impressed with the way the CPU attacked in some situations but played it safe in others such as a draw on 3rd and long."

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# 61 countryboy @ 06/06/09 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaseB


	True story: I saw Pasta accept money directly from several EA developers during E3....This story and more coming up on the 11 o'clock OS Report.

LMFAO!!!

# 62 Moegames @ 06/06/09 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by adembroski


	Nice thing is, it's something they built in a way to tune it very easily, so I expect we'll see improvements. It was happening WAY too much at CD, so it's sort of a matter of finding the happy medium between then and now.

Remember the vast improvement the guy from IGN saw from two builds that were two weeks apart...thats a good sign that things can quickly be tweaked. Im referring to the IGN E3 madden preview article at ign

# 63 edaddy @ 06/06/09 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GTheorenHobbes


	That's just not true, Adem. Pasta is basically an EA/Tiburon employee at this point, and will almost NEVER say anything negative about a major EA game, especially Madden. Let's look back at some of what he had to say about Madden 09 during his early Hands-On, shall we: http://www.pastapadre.com/2644/madde...ands-on-report "As I mentioned as the blog began I have a completely different feeling about the game this year compared to how I felt last year. That is accented even more by how it is still a few months to go until release. Outside of a few bugs, which were reported to the producers and some already having been fixed by the time we left the studio, it felt like a game that was prepared for release. Originally I didn�t want to be too enthusiastic considering how my thoughts could�ve changed as the day progressed. However I left with the same general feeling as I began with. Last year, playing the actual release copies, I quickly identified the fumbles, poor o-line blocking, and overpowered kicking as issues that would be relatively serious. However with 09 I didn�t come across any of those type of things. Instead I passed along some feedback on minor areas along the lines of reducing the camera flashes and adding return plays with a single returner deep." Now, we all know that Madden 09 ended up having more than just a few "minor" issues. Notice, nowhere in his 09 or 10 previews does Pasta mention anything about the lack of camera angles (especially compared to other next gen sports games), the lack of in-game saves (just a terrible, terrible omission), or last year, Robo QB. Some more from his preview last year: "The presentation really enhances the experience and isn�t just thrown on the top. The replays are well integrated, things are easy to access on the play call screen, and the commentary is quite good (especially Chris Collinsworth)." "Online leagues were talked about quite a bit, much of which was already known, but if you have questions I can probably answer most of them. They really wanted to focus and get the base right so they could expand on it over the coming years. Some other things they are working towards are spectator mode and possibly saving/reconnecting into online games that were interrupted (which would eventually grown out of the in-game saves feature they will have next year). Those might not be next year but they are things that they would like to add in down the line." If Online Leagues were talked about quite a bit, then why wasn't anything said about the bogus (i.e., non-real) schedules that were being used? And spectator mode? Where's that?? I appreciate Pasta's website, because he does come through with a lot of pre-release videos. But I take anything he says about EA's games with a HUGE grain of salt.

Excellent post and I agree with you Pasta has been called out about this very thing on several occassions..at least on this site..I think it goes without saying that alot of people take Pasta's reviews about EA's game with a grain of salt..I do think to some extent that in order to be invited to some of these events you have to be pro-EA to some extent...

# 64 Brandwin @ 06/06/09 05:56 PM

Thanks for the impressions, Pasta.

# 65 FOREST007 @ 06/07/09 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by edaddy


	Excellent post and I agree with you Pasta has been called out about this very thing on several occassions..at least on this site..I think it goes without saying that alot of people take Pasta's reviews about EA's game with a grain of salt..I do think to some extent that in order to be invited to some of these events you have to be pro-EA to some extent...

im pro-ea, by choice and by force. i love football, and only ea makes licensed pro nfl football games...end of story, end of discussion

# 66 Exonerated @ 06/07/09 07:54 AM

What was wrong with Pasta's comment about Madden 09?

He didn't seem overly excited about it. But you don't expect him to completely slander and destroy Madden, like faceless anonymous members (who have no accountability) do.

He said it like it was.

In my PERSONAL OPINION, in-game saves, multiple camera angles, spectator mode are absolutely useless. And I think Pasta didn't give much thought to these things.

And he said ONline league was just a base. He didn't hype it up.

# 67 JMD @ 06/07/09 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by splff3000


	Wow! So anyone can just come along and randomly join a franchise. This is getting worse by the minute I can't wait until Ian opens up for discussion. I'd be interested in knowing what some of there thought processes were for doing some of the things they did.

Yeah this bothered me as well:

"Unlike Online Dynasty in NCAA Football which requires an invite there will be the ability to join random Online Franchises in Madden. Given this news I�m not sure it wouldn�t be better to have them be solely invite based like NCAA."

I don't want any glitching cheeseballs joining my OLF.

# 68 JMD @ 06/07/09 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Cusefan


	Not if you make it a private franchise...OMG! there are always two option, Public and Private, pick Private and you personally invite your friends.

If that is the case then Pasta should have described it that way, he did not.

# 69 K_GUN @ 06/07/09 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by GTheorenHobbes


	That's just not true, Adem. Pasta is basically an EA/Tiburon employee at this point, and will almost NEVER say anything negative about a major EA game, especially Madden. Let's look back at some of what he had to say about Madden 09 during his early Hands-On, shall we: http://www.pastapadre.com/2644/madde...ands-on-report "As I mentioned as the blog began I have a completely different feeling about the game this year compared to how I felt last year. That is accented even more by how it is still a few months to go until release. Outside of a few bugs, which were reported to the producers and some already having been fixed by the time we left the studio, it felt like a game that was prepared for release. Originally I didn�t want to be too enthusiastic considering how my thoughts could�ve changed as the day progressed. However I left with the same general feeling as I began with. Last year, playing the actual release copies, I quickly identified the fumbles, poor o-line blocking, and overpowered kicking as issues that would be relatively serious. However with 09 I didn�t come across any of those type of things. Instead I passed along some feedback on minor areas along the lines of reducing the camera flashes and adding return plays with a single returner deep." Now, we all know that Madden 09 ended up having more than just a few "minor" issues. Notice, nowhere in his 09 or 10 previews does Pasta mention anything about the lack of camera angles (especially compared to other next gen sports games), the lack of in-game saves (just a terrible, terrible omission), or last year, Robo QB. Some more from his preview last year: "The presentation really enhances the experience and isn�t just thrown on the top. The replays are well integrated, things are easy to access on the play call screen, and the commentary is quite good (especially Chris Collinsworth)." "Online leagues were talked about quite a bit, much of which was already known, but if you have questions I can probably answer most of them. They really wanted to focus and get the base right so they could expand on it over the coming years. Some other things they are working towards are spectator mode and possibly saving/reconnecting into online games that were interrupted (which would eventually grown out of the in-game saves feature they will have next year). Those might not be next year but they are things that they would like to add in down the line." If Online Leagues were talked about quite a bit, then why wasn't anything said about the bogus (i.e., non-real) schedules that were being used? And spectator mode? Where's that?? I appreciate Pasta's website, because he does come through with a lot of pre-release videos. But I take anything he says about EA's games with a HUGE grain of salt.

sorry bro...gotta call you on this one

pasta did a podcast with peter moore a while back (pre-madden 09).....he didn't wash any balls in that interview...some pretty solid questions were asked

i'm sure he has it archived, check it out

# 70 TombSong @ 06/07/09 09:02 AM

Pastas "impressions" is the same as last years and the year before and the year before, and IGN's and Gamespot, and whoever.
Dont matter if we think they are EA pimps or not. They ALL give the same preview, review, impressions.

They are all overviews of the features and some personal opinions on gameplay. This aint gonna cut it anymore...

Is there anyone who has played this game tht can give some nitty gritty info on the football stuff thats suppose to be in our football game ?

Pasta says He saw pockets form, ok, Ill give him the benefit of the doubt despite not having seen a video that indeed shows a decent pocket forming.

Reviewers:

What happens when you call the line stunts against various run/pass formations ? What happens to the pocket then and how is the run blocking againts various defensive fronts and dline calls ?

How is the WR/DB interaction playing out ? Do good WR's run there routes better than lesser WR's, Do shutdown CB's shutdown WR's in man to man ?

How well do the RB special moves work ? Can you still pass to a WR before he makes his cut ? Are the elite linemen putting noticable pressure on the QBs ? I mean to the point the Offense has to adjust pass protection ? What pass protection adjustments can we make ?

Is there any DB shading in the game ? If so how does it impact man to man coverage ? Is rocket catching still a factor ?
Does player fatigue play a noticable factor in the game. Are the player ratings such that each player have a unique feel to them ?

These are some questions that need to be answered in these "impression" threads. I dont want to know how you personlly feel about the game until you have covered the meat and potatoes of what the games is suppose to do functionally. Does it do the football things right.

Every year we get these glowing previews only to find out a few weeks after release we have been bamboozled again.

We need to start digging a little deeper when we are reviewing a game. Once you get past the new feature wows. you gotta tell us whats goign on with the stuff we been crying for has been included and how is it functioning.

# 71 countryboy @ 06/07/09 09:30 AM

Why are we debating Pasta's credibility? If you don't agree with his opinions, feel as though he's "pro-EA" or whatever you want to call it, then by all means, don't read his previews/reviews and don't go into threads that are dedicated to his previews/reviews/opinions.

This is ridiculous.

# 72 Da Bears @ 06/07/09 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by splff3000


	Wow! So anyone can just come along and randomly join a franchise. This is getting worse by the minute I can't wait until Ian opens up for discussion. I'd be interested in knowing what some of there thought processes were for doing some of the things they did.

I'm with you on this.

# 73 roadman @ 06/07/09 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by countryboy


	Why are we debating Pasta's credibility? If you don't agree with his opinions, feel as though he's "pro-EA" or whatever you want to call it, then by all means, don't read his previews/reviews and don't go into threads that are dedicated to his previews/reviews/opinions. This is ridiculous.

Exactly.

It just causes a storm.

It's amazing that poster pointed out someone's post history. Great, everyone that is someone knows everyone. We all know the poster's post history as well.

Irony that one person calls another person's reviews bias.

# 74 Exonerated @ 06/07/09 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by GTheorenHobbes


	Based on your posting history, I'm not at all surprised you feel that way. I'm sure you'd also agree with Pasta that the commentary in Madden 09 was "quite good". There are more than a few people around here that see EA's games the way Pasta does. I'm just not one of them.

From your posting history you appear to be an anti-ea troller...

FYI. Madden 09's commentary was terrible. I've got an iphone soccer game with better commentary.

# 75 RogueHominid @ 06/07/09 10:40 AM

Here's my concern/issue.

I want to run a Madden online franchise comprised solely of dedicated APF players. I do NOT want your average Madden gamer in my franchise, and hearing that players can pop in uninvited will simply make this mode too problematic to play for me.

In reading Pasta's impressions, I gather from the wording that contracts, salary caps, and trade logic are all missing. Now when I initially heard about problems regarding roster management, I was under the impression that commissioners would simply have to generate some house rules about CAP space.

From this review it seems that there are simply no contracts at all. Is this correct, or have I mis-read?

Practically, this will mean that in order to function properly, a league will have to be full of user-controlled teams and have a commish that is fully empowered.

For my money--literally--if this mode is the "big news" regarding Madden 10 and it has all of this stuff missing, that's pretty embarrassing. I'd love to hear that my reading comprehension skills have diminished and I'm just wrong here, but that's a lot of bad news for the new, game-changing feature.

# 76 Da Bears @ 06/07/09 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by The Autumn Wind


	Here's my concern/issue. I want to run a Madden online franchise comprised solely of dedicated APF players. I do NOT want your average Madden gamer in my franchise, and hearing that players can pop in uninvited will simply make this mode too problematic to play for me. In reading Pasta's impressions, I gather from the wording that contracts, salary caps, and trade logic are all missing. Now when I initially heard about problems regarding roster management, I was under the impression that commissioners would simply have to generate some house rules about CAP space. From this review it seems that there are simply no contracts at all. Is this correct, or have I mis-read? Practically, this will mean that in order to function properly, a league will have to be full of user-controlled teams and have a commish that is fully empowered. For my money--literally--if this mode is the "big news" regarding Madden 10 and it has all of this stuff missing, that's pretty embarrassing. I'd love to hear that my reading comprehension skills have diminished and I'm just wrong here, but that's a lot of bad news for the new, game-changing feature.

This is very true.We need a blog on this.

# 77 Smoke316 @ 06/07/09 11:06 AM

Im pretty sure you can make your franchise invite only and password locked.We def will get a blog on this at some point.My main concern is the salary cap..is there a chance this will be in by launch? the trade logic is easy to work around the the salary cap makes things so much easier and without itll get complicated

# 78 roadman @ 06/07/09 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by GTheorenHobbes


	It's not really irony. EA took away our choice in football games 5 years ago and hasn't given us a quality football game since. So yes, I am biased when it comes to believing the latest Pasta Padre hype. I bought into the hype last year and ended up trading the game back in a couple of weeks later. It bothers me that, by inviting these guys out for all expense paid trips to EA headquarters and other celebrity laden events, they're essentially able to get away with releasing a sub-standard product. Maybe I'll feel differently whenever we finally get the in-game saves, multiple camera angles, quality on-line leagues, etc., that we've been waiting over 5 years for. But until then, I'm going to continue to call a spade a spade, whether you, country boy, exonerated, and panther beast like reading it or not.

If you are good at going over post history, you'll notice I couldn't stand last years game. It's appears you are trying to lump me into a EA apologist. I only play it because my son loves playing against me, if that is ok with you.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but Pasta wasn't at EA headquarters this year. He wasn't a part of CD. I wish you would try to stick with facts before calling someone out.

And of course, you read what you only wanted to read.

Pasta also noted negatives with the E3 build as well.

# 79 countryboy @ 06/07/09 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by GTheorenHobbes


	It's not really irony. EA took away our choice in football games 5 years ago and hasn't given us a quality football game since. So yes, I am biased when it comes to believing the latest Pasta Padre hype. I bought into the hype last year and ended up trading the game back in a couple of weeks later. It bothers me that, by inviting these guys out for all expense paid trips to EA headquarters and other celebrity laden events, they're essentially able to get away with releasing a sub-standard product. Maybe I'll feel differently whenever we finally get the in-game saves, multiple camera angles, quality on-line leagues, etc., that we've been waiting over 5 years for. But until then, I'm going to continue to call a spade a spade, whether you, country boy, exonerated, and panther beast like reading it or not.

So you're going ahead and determining Madden '10 a subpar game simply because it doesn't yet have all the features that you want the game to have? We'll overlook the strides the game has made from last year to this year, simply because in-game saves, quality on line leagues(not sure how we determine that one yet), and more camera views aren't in the game.

And a question...are you implying that anyone that attends CD events become nothing more than EA hype machines?

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