Madden 2010 News Post

Madden NFL 10 Blog: Player Momentum

05:54 PM - March 16, 2009 by Ian_Cummings

Check out the latest Madden NFL 10 blog. This one covers player momentum.

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	"Hey Madden fans, it's that time again...time for another weekly blog update! Last week, I shared some of the details around the successes and challenges we've had in trying to create simulation gameplay for Madden NFL 10. To be clear, 'simulation' gameplay isn't new - IMO it's what put EA SPORTS (and Madden) on the map in the early 90's after all. Well this week we wanted to touch on one of the biggest aspects in creating an NFL sim, and as you might expect, this is also usually most difficult to get to an area where it still 'feels right'. That aspect is Player Momentum. Creating momentum in a football game is typically handled in many different ways, so today I'm going to just touch on one key area (and leave other topics for future weeks)."

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# 161 woowoo782 @ 03/17/09 07:08 PM

thank god, planting in a Madden game

deccelerating and accelerating are words i like to hear, good job Ian hopefully momentum is used right and big hits don't look cheesy anymore, and theres more than 4 animations for big hits...i would like to see the hit stick become a button because people overuse it all the time and takes away from the experience because its easy to use, but having a button would require timing. use the thumstick for regular tackleing, like in All-Pro, cut tackle, mid tackle and high tackle.

# 162 Bump101 @ 03/17/09 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by S1ARk5


	I think the problem is that Ian and Co are focusin on the wrong aspect of momentum. When i saw momentum I thought I was going to read about recievers keeping their body in play while going for a pass that has been over thrown, or a big back keeping the momentum of the pile going forward for extra yards, or more realisitic tackles with momentum playing a factor, but what do we see? Oh a runner taking a few more steps going to the sidelines..LOL... cmon on man, I am not buying what EA is selling so far... all these little improvements if you want to call it that, would be great if the rest of the game was great but give me a break man, this will have no real impact on the gameplay....

You my friend just don't get it do you. Let's get something clear, Ian is giving us the SMALL, I repeat the SMALL improvements to the game right now. The big announcements aren't coming until after the draft. Would you rather Ian just say the hell with keeping the community up to speed with the LITTLE things, and just wait til May to start giving out information on the game? Ian clearly stated that the momentum thing is a work in progress. He didn't say what you see is what you get. Ian was just giving us a early look at how different the actual movement of the players from 10 will be compared to 09. This blog wasn't about the actual running styles of the players or whether the phyics of players were correct. It was about players having to actually slow down to make a cut or turn. I understand where some of the people are coming from when they criticize the blog in a postive and non judgmental way. But people like you need to stay off these boards until the game is release if you don't think the "LITTLE" things that's being worked on isn't going to change the overall gameplay of this game. Yes the aninimation looks a little sloppy, but did you read the part where Ian said this was the busiest work day of the year and he still took a hour out his day to put this blog together? People complaining about the blog feeling rushed or this really isn't a BIG deal or whatever. Well, techinally you're right it isn't a BIG deal it's just one of the LITTLE things that's going to help madden become more sim. If some people aren't smart enough to realize this, then maybe posting on these forums isn't for you, because me personally, I have been laughing at some of the simple minded stuff that have been posted in this thread. Keep doing your thing Ian, because no matter how good you make madden 10, somebody, someplace, somewhere is going to hate. Let the haters hate!

# 163 shttymcgee @ 03/17/09 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by The Sim God


	get rid of turbo and have the left stick be the speed you hold it a little, you dont run as fast. hold the stick all the way down = youre at top speed the way it is now running as fast as you can isnt the fastest you can go, you have TURBOOOOOOO!!!! no nfl player has 'turbo' when they are running they have 'break away speed' and maybe that should be a new attribute but PLEASE do away with the turbo button. its totally unrealistic

There needs to be some way of separating non-full speed and full-speed. If you think that RB's are full speed in the backfield, then you are sadly mistaken.

# 164 Tyrant8RDFL @ 03/17/09 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by monkeybutlerz


	Ya it's march, so what? He's here to interact with the community and if they can give some input on something that can be refined/adjusted before it becomes the final product, then that's a huge plus. It'd be better to whine about it now when there's perhaps a chance to have it adjusted as opposed to having to put it in a wishlist when the game comes out!

Yes exactly its MARCH! to soon to whine!

The person commenting wasnt commenting in a constructive manner, but in a way that what he was viewing was the final version, and it doesnt make any sense. Like your post!

Now if he came across asking EA , "By any chance is this exactly what the animations is going to be?", and EA stated yes than yes his feedback would have made sense.
Now Feedback was asked from EA, but that wasnt the case in this blog.

It was some smallllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll bit of info they gave us, so we can know what THEY ARE WORKING ON IN MARCH!

# 165 monkeybutlerz @ 03/17/09 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrant8RDFL


	Yes exactly its MARCH! to soon to whine! The person commenting wasnt commenting in a constructive manner, but in a way that what he was viewing was the final version, and it doesnt make any sense. Like your post! Now if he came across asking EA , "By any chance is this exactly what the animations is going to be?", and EA stated yes than yes his feedback would have made sense. Now Feedback was asked from EA, but that wasnt the case in this blog. It was some smallllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll bit of info they gave us, so we can know what THEY ARE WORKING ON IN MARCH!

My post doesn't make sense? I wasn't defending that poster in particular, but the people who are making comments about little things we think could be touched up. It's not whining in our case, it's interacting with the devs, which is what they're here to do. If everyone just came on here and kissed their asses and said A+ to whatever they say, there's no sense in them being involved with the community other than to hype up the game (which is not the case).

I, along with a couple other posters, made constructive comments backed with explanations and reasoning. Hardly mindless complaining.

And since it's MARCH now is the time to give our input on little things that could possibly get edited before the game is released. Is it a finished product? No. But maybe a community member here or there might see something they overlook, or bring up a point that might help them in the development of the game, prompting them to make some changes that they may or may not have retouched before releasing the game. I guarantee you that if we pick up on something that could be fixed, Ian would be a hell of a lot more appreciative of hearing it now then in a wishlist for 2011.

I don't see the harm, we're hardly complaining and calling out Ian (who's doing a great job btw), hell we're very supportive of the game's new direction.

This is a discussion forum, if you don't want to see any discussion or opinions on the blogs and you only want to see "This is a great blog", then don't read our posts. Read the blog and move on. Our points have hardly been inflammatory and we haven't spewed hate at all. We're not being unappreciative, we're trying to contribute.

# 166 Tyrant8RDFL @ 03/17/09 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by monkeybutlerz


	My post doesn't make sense? I wasn't defending that poster in particular, but the people who are making comments about little things we think could be touched up. It's not whining in our case, it's interacting with the devs, which is what they're here to do. If everyone just came on here and kissed their asses and said A+ to whatever they say, there's no sense in them being involved with the community other than to hype up the game (which is not the case). I, along with a couple other posters, made constructive comments backed with explanations and reasoning. Hardly mindless complaining. And since it's MARCH now is the time to give our input on little things that could possibly get edited before the game is released. Is it a finished product? No. But maybe a community member here or there might see something they overlook, or bring up a point that might help them in the development of the game, prompting them to make some changes that they may or may not have retouched before releasing the game. I guarantee you that if we pick up on something that could be fixed, Ian would be a hell of a lot more appreciative of hearing it now then in a wishlist for 2011. I don't see the harm, we're hardly complaining and calling out Ian (who's doing a great job btw), hell we're very supportive of the game's new direction. This is a discussion forum, if you don't want to see any discussion or opinions on the blogs and you only want to see "This is a great blog", then don't read our posts. Read the blog and move on. Our points have hardly been inflammatory and we haven't spewed hate at all. We're not being unappreciative, we're trying to contribute.

It's obvious that you just dont get it, so there is no need to go back and fourth on this.
We do agree on one thing, and thats to disagree on this.

Please don't give me that lecture on what this forum is about. I'm well aware of what this forum is all about.

In the future when you want to express yourself on someone's post, its fine but when you go on using exclamation points, it get personal and disrespectful.
Show some respect and you will be surprised you will get respect back.

# 167 monkeybutlerz @ 03/17/09 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrant8RDFL


	It's obvious that you just dont get it, so there is no need to go back and fourth on this. We do agree on one thing, and thats to disagree on this. Please don't give me that lecture on what this forum is about. I'm well aware of what this forum is all about. In the future when you want to express yourself on someone's post, its fine but when you go on using exclamation points, it get personal and disrespectful. Show some respect and you will be surprised you will get respect back.

I've yet to have problems with anyone else on this board and I don't really see how I've said anything inflammatory to yourself or any other member of this board for that matter. If anything I've posted had the interpreted tone of being disrespectful, then it did not express my true intentions. I don't come on to these forums to be an internet tough guy and ruffle peoples feathers needlessly over video game discussions.

And you're right, I clearly don't get it, because I don't see why you began lecturing me and other members who were discussing small things that we felt didn't look natural about the player's body movement during his turns. Perhaps your comments were directed at some posters who were being more degrading of the product and the blog, but I'm not sure. My comments were never meant as a form of disrespect to Ian or his team, I was just pointing out something that could possibly get fixed. If that's not the point of interacting with the devs, then maybe you could point me in the right direction because I was hardly being abrasive or unappreciative of their efforts.

And not as a personal smarty pants shot, but I've used a grand total of 1 exclamation point this entire time, while you used several in your prior response.

# 168 Bump101 @ 03/17/09 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by wheelman990


	Your words are spoken as if you know for sure there are better features coming. How do you know this, because EA has said so? If history has taught us anything, its not to make bold statements like this until you know for sure better features do indeed exsist. Otherwise, come August, you will owe many people a apology and look pretty silly.

I'm just going off what Ian has stated. That the BIG announcements aren't going to be til draft day. Whether it's better then the stuff he already announce, I have nothing to do with. The point is, until the BIG announcements are release, fall back with all the EA bashing. We know everyone has been burned by EA in the past...blah blah blah...whatever, whatever. This is not the same old development team so give Ian and Co some slack. Chill the F**k out!

# 169 niggarachi @ 03/18/09 03:24 AM

some of you guys are way off topic(as am i right now) if it were me, i would be regretting the whole forum idea right about now. understand, ian doesnt hvae to tell or show us anything. this is a privelage!!! dont take it for granted. some of you act like ur his boss, telling him what he NEEDS to do. some others speak on things which show they have absoloutely no idea what they are talking about. guillotine1, that whole thing about the locomotin and footrwork or whatever carried on for way too long. dog, its a game for christ sake! is whether he planted with his left/right foot while making a turn gonna be the difference in whether you buy the game or not? i doubt it. then STFU! say it once and thats it. the fact that ian himself addressed should have been enough for you. if u all can do so much better go apply for a job with ea and shows, if u cant then i dont think you need to criticize so heavily. just had to get some things off my chest. GREAT JOB IAN AND CREW. keep the blogs coming and dont let these *******s throw you off your game. cantr please everybody. when madden is right, when its done. youll know it a hell of alot better then any of us.

# 170 S1ARk5 @ 03/18/09 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by niggarachi


	some of you guys are way off topic(as am i right now) if it were me, i would be regretting the whole forum idea right about now. understand, ian doesnt hvae to tell or show us anything. this is a privelage!!! dont take it for granted. some of you act like ur his boss, telling him what he NEEDS to do. some others speak on things which show they have absoloutely no idea what they are talking about. guillotine1, that whole thing about the locomotin and footrwork or whatever carried on for way too long. dog, its a game for christ sake! is whether he planted with his left/right foot while making a turn gonna be the difference in whether you buy the game or not? i doubt it. then STFU! say it once and thats it. the fact that ian himself addressed should have been enough for you. if u all can do so much better go apply for a job with ea and shows, if u cant then i dont think you need to criticize so heavily. just had to get some things off my chest. GREAT JOB IAN AND CREW. keep the blogs coming and dont let these *******s throw you off your game. cantr please everybody. when madden is right, when its done. youll know it a hell of alot better then any of us.

Well come to think of it, we are bigger then his boss, we are THE CUSTOMER, which effect his job and his higher ups employment status. If Madden doesn't sell they are all in trouble, so yes we can surely tell Ian and the rest of the EA team what we want and what we expect. Will they listen? Who knows? Will they implement all the additions we want? Probably not, but don't sit there and tell us we can not bark at EA for giving us a poor product over the years.

# 171 roadman @ 03/18/09 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by S1ARk5


	Well come to think of it, we are bigger then his boss, we are THE CUSTOMER, which effect his job and his higher ups employment status. If Madden doesn't sell they are all in trouble, so yes we can surely tell Ian and the rest of the EA team what we want and what we expect. Will they listen? Who knows? Will they implement all the additions we want? Probably not, but don't sit there and tell us we can not bark at EA for giving us a poor product over the years.

Unfortunately, Ian/Phil and company endure that wrath from previous Maddens. Here's to hoping they separate themselves from the past.

# 172 niggarachi @ 03/19/09 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by S1ARk5


	Well come to think of it, we are bigger then his boss, we are THE CUSTOMER, which effect his job and his higher ups employment status. If Madden doesn't sell they are all in trouble, so yes we can surely tell Ian and the rest of the EA team what we want and what we expect. Will they listen? Who knows? Will they implement all the additions we want? Probably not, but don't sit there and tell us we can not bark at EA for giving us a poor product over the years.

no we arent bigger than his boss. just because we are the consumer of this product doesnt mean that we hae any authority. they can make the game to be whatever they want. its up to us to buy it or not. but a smart group of salesman will listen to the public ear to see what the public wants and tom see if their product is desireable in the public view. such as ian and crew with this forum. how many other games that you buy give you the opportunity to give direct input into thier creation? this is a gift and a privelage to us. a priverlage which clearly you dont understand. you dont "bark" at someone to get better service , if anything that will have the opposite effect. remember, these arent the same guys who have been working on madden in the past. this is a new crew and as you ncan see from the blogs, they are getting things right. the morale of this story is.... do not think that you are more important than any other. if you should decide not to purchase this game, there are millions more who will. you have zero clout. its ok to comment os make suggestions, but not to "bark" or make demands.

# 173 niggarachi @ 03/19/09 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 94niners


	... I couldn't help but notice that your handle is ... niggarachi...

lol long story where that came from. its a nickname. dont hate dog! you can have a cool nickname someday too

# 174 NYyankz225 @ 03/19/09 01:57 AM

I think this whole issue has gone overboard and everyone is discussing it to death.

But I'm going to add my 2 cents because I'm hypocritical like that

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Ian is posting small tidbits. He's hoping that people are intelligent enough to realize that these are not attempting to create a full picture but simply a slice of information...and that people will take it as such. Unfortunately people are jumping to conclusions about other issues that, while similar, isn't discussed in the blog. Then they start assuming about them and you know what happens when you assume...

My advice? Don't try to apply the information in these blogs to the entire game. This does not represent the final game or even the game as a work in progress. They represent specific additions/changes that Ian has made to the components of the game. If you have an issue with the particular information discussed, then by all means let Ian know (such as Guillotine having an issue with the footwork). But don't start copying and pasting this info to other aspects of the game when Ian hasn't addressed them.

# 175 Avii @ 03/19/09 05:21 AM

I wonder to know if in franchise mode we'll have declining stats a la Pro Evolution Soccer. I mean, not everyone declines in the same way, not necessarily just because of playing time or previous season production.

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