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My Quest to be the Best Online in NHL 09

03:55 PM - January 20, 2009 by RaychelSnr

Online gaming has become very popular in the last decade. One reason it has become so popular is because people love to compete. And when people compete, they do so to see who is best. However, in the online world, it seems that no matter how good you are, there is always someone better. Still, inevitably, someone has to be number one -- even in the online realm.

So with that thought in mind, I recently began my quest to become the number one online player in NHL 09. Here is a little of what I have encountered during my endeavor

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# 1 StEaLtHsHoT @ 01/20/09 04:04 PM

Hey man glad to see someone that actually doesn't cheese hopefully make the top 100. I play cheese free and can only manage a 500. record of 50-50.

# 2 savoie2006 @ 01/20/09 04:50 PM

"This game unfortunately does not reward hard work enough, but rather lame tactics that manipulate the formula for scoring goals. For you see, it is much easier to just do simple moves like walking out from the corner and sniping short side against the grain, than it is to say set up a point shot and blast one low blocker side."

That quote right there says it all and is what the NHL team needs to really work on.

# 3 Phobia @ 01/20/09 05:13 PM

Well Patrick Williams I sure hope I don't come across you then. I am not going to let go of my sense of right and wrong just to win. Taking advantage of the AI logic, AI short comings, and all these chessy issues people come across online is wrong. There is not way to explain it to me to make it seem right. Bottom line is taking the "win at any extent" approach is what is wrong with the online community.

People have lost all forms of the "Honor system". I think it also directly reflects where as a society we have come. I know that might seem like a stretch but I honestly feel we as a society have declined in compassion, honor, respect, etc. I think this shows aswell in online gaming. Just my opinion though.

# 4 buzzguy @ 01/20/09 05:14 PM

Want to avoid cheese! Join an online league! Ok, maybe there's still cheese, but at least there are consequences.

# 5 savoie2006 @ 01/20/09 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by buzzguy


	Want to avoid cheese! Join an online league! Ok, maybe there's still cheese, but at least there are consequences.

What do you call the EASHL? It's one huge league that is so cluttered with cheesers and cheaters, it's pathetic.

# 6 buzzguy @ 01/20/09 05:38 PM

I mean private, online league. They seem to have the best self-policing.

# 7 Bahnzo @ 01/20/09 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by savoie2006


	That quote right there says it all and is what the NHL team needs to really work on.

Not just NHL, but online sports gaming in general. Show me one game that doesn't have exploits that are staples of every gamer on the top of the leaderboards.

# 8 Phobia @ 01/20/09 06:47 PM

So basicly yall have proved my point. Either we as the "casual gamer" who does not want to spend hours finding the ways to abuse the game OR us the "sim" crowd have to spend countless hours trying to find people that play correctly.

Instead of the developers making it so these things are not possible. There is a reason for patchs, ship the game, if people find exploits, then fix them.

But in the end this thread is why online gaming is going down the tubes. Find whatever cheap, exploiting, cheating, chessy , way to win.

# 9 cooldude @ 01/20/09 07:35 PM

Good luck in your chase to be number 1.

# 10 bang911 @ 01/20/09 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia


	So basicly yall have proved my point. Either we as the "casual gamer" who does not want to spend hours finding the ways to abuse the game OR us the "sim" crowd have to spend countless hours trying to find people that play correctly. Instead of the developers making it so these things are not possible. There is a reason for patchs, ship the game, if people find exploits, then fix them. But in the end this thread is why online gaming is going down the tubes. Find whatever cheap, exploiting, cheating, chessy , way to win.

Commited gamers still can enjoy the game.

In the article Patrick just explains that he is competitive and wants to be the best NHL 09 player. He says that he uses his hockey knowledge and game skill to win games.

This works until a certain point, at which other players might rely on AI deficiencies to beat him. At that time, as a competitor, you must adapt by learning how to do some of the "tricks" yourself and then learn how they can be stopped.

If two players in the top 10 are facing off, they will both know all the exploits already. If one player has more knowledge of real hockey it will be an advantage.

If you can beat someone by playing all-sim, then go ahead and do it, it is always more impressive. If cheese is necessary to beat another cheeser then I think it is a legit tactic.

# 11 tabulaRasa @ 01/20/09 09:13 PM

You can�t be NR 1 without cheating/glitching, firstly top 500 is all about the cheese moves. And secondly NHL09 is so flawed when it comes to interference and the top 500 abuse this on D, that along with the insane stick lifts craze. But the constant checks before you even are close to the puck is ruining the gameplay. But only top 500 abuse it on every chance they can. Add to that the wrappers (easy to do), the break away reversal move, the slapper L-move, the dump in close crease etc.

Playing top 500 is horrible and aint hockey. Anyhow I am 1600 and at that level there is still fair play. On top 500 is a joke, it�s a glitchfest.

But one thing for EA, ffs add some good interference calls, the game is ruined with the bumper car checks on passes. And hammering the stick lift 500 times a game shouldn�t be a good D move.

# 12 paperclips @ 01/20/09 09:17 PM

Bravo. Good article. I myself don't play online, or even play NHL 09 for that matter, but I can appreciate the fact that you can objectively look at the tactics necessary to accomplish what you set out to do.

Good Luck.

# 13 Ruffy @ 01/21/09 12:24 PM

People who play against two opponents are just asking to get whooped. On the flip side if your 2 players vs. 1 you should never lose. Player Lock and playing the wings combined with the computers AI you shoud dominate the game easily.

I never play any one with a guest...i only play opponents using play now. I use teams in Alpabetical order starting with Anaheim and Atlanta all the way down to Washington.

If i was one of top 3 or 5 NHL teams every time my record would be way better....but i don't cheese, enjoy a challenge and occaisonally pull off a big upset!

Beat Detroit last night 2-1 as Phoenix....choosing teams alpabetically gets you some wild matchups too which is fun.

I've made two names now....my orginally guy over 400 wins 160 losses 30 or so losses in OT.

My new name, just for fun (alternate ID to be left alone from friends on PSN),

I'm 20-4-1 lost in a shootout. Same way of choosing teams alphabetically.

Hoping the news on a recent patch takes away a few money goals and adds some interference calls.

Leaderboards are for losers....I enjoy checking out my stats and all but in the end could care less about where I stand in the world of cheats and glitches.....

I play a clean fun high forechecking game. NHL is a good stress releiver for me..so trying to be #1 would involve cheating, glitching and playing 14 hours a day...yawn!

# 14 bigwill33 @ 01/21/09 02:17 PM

Thanks for enjoying the article gents. I think I may continue with updates on how it is going with future installments. I was worried the reception this kind of article would get since I know most of us here are more sim gamers. I myself am straight sim even when I am playing my friends or the cpu by myself. We have unspoken rules about punting on 4th downs and running up scores etc. Yet this game online is totally opposite at times.

So I guess knowing about what it is like in the top is still interesting even if it is not for everyone. It is a dark and dirty world lol. And just a recent update I have made it up to 112 before losing and getting knocked back to 126. And I have enough to write a follow up now with some stories that might be of interest. I really don't think I will get to be #1, but I think I am among the best and if I can learn some more tricks I might have a shot. The thing is do I want to go down that road?

# 15 Matt Diesel @ 01/21/09 05:28 PM

What do you get out of being ranked #1 if you do not like to cheese yet cheese is the only way to go in the top 500? It seems to me that you dont enjoy the tactics you have to use to be the 'best', so why do it?

# 16 Ruffy @ 01/21/09 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mddst34


	What do you get out of being ranked #1 if you do not like to cheese yet cheese is the only way to go in the top 500? It seems to me that you dont enjoy the tactics you have to use to be the 'best', so why do it?

Exactly...and hey the guy who is #1 overall gets.....drumroll........

NOTHING!!

Same as the guy that sucks at the game.....I enjoy the stat tracking on my end for goals and stuff but could care less if your 458 and 4 whoopee!!

# 17 Phobia @ 01/21/09 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruffy


	Exactly...and hey the guy who is #1 overall gets.....drumroll........ NOTHING!! Same as the guy that sucks at the game.....I enjoy the stat tracking on my end for goals and stuff but could care less if your 458 and 4 whoopee!!

Agree RUff

I want realistic hockey, not a cheating fest

# 18 Cletus @ 01/21/09 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia


	Agree RUff I want realistic hockey, not a cheating fest

yeah. I played a real good game with one guy just now and it was tied 1-1 so we went to shootout. First thing he does in shootout is skate from one side of the net to the slot and does a slapshot and scores. Then next goal he hits lb then when the goalie goes down releases it then backhands it in. I just quit. It pretty much ruined a good game. This game wasn't even ranked so I don't get why someone would want to ruin a good game like that.

# 19 JR360 @ 01/21/09 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by FlyerMan18


	NHL09 has a ranking system when playing online and its really a disadvantage to new players to the game. Just say someone who has been playing online since the game came out and they have a online rank of, lets say 3. And someone who has been playing the NHL series since the early days of Sega and they just get NHL 09 and start playing online, well their online rank is lower but they are pretty good players. The online rank system is going to give the advantage to the higher rank, witch in MHO is unfair.

Are you talking about the Card progression for EASHL? Other than that there is no advantage for ranking.

# 20 Phobia @ 01/22/09 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Cletus


	yeah. I played a real good game with one guy just now and it was tied 1-1 so we went to shootout. First thing he does in shootout is skate from one side of the net to the slot and does a slapshot and scores. Then next goal he hits lb then when the goalie goes down releases it then backhands it in. I just quit. It pretty much ruined a good game. This game wasn't even ranked so I don't get why someone would want to ruin a good game like that.

I have had to quit playing online for now. I was going to end up having a stroke from my blood pressure going through the roof. The amount of BS stuff people do online is insane. I been playing APF online again instead

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