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With EA's recent announcement of Dynamic DNA in NBA Live 09, many gamers were left with a puzzled look in their forums posts (figuratively of course). Matthew DiStaulo checks in today with an article that explains the feature a bit and even speculates a bit on the possibilities in his article, Dynamic DNA: What does it Mean?

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"Nonetheless, many game makers consider roster updates a luxury rather than a need -- or they simply don't want to sacrifice the manpower to work on a roster update, much to the chagrin of the hardcore gaming community. The problem with that philosophy is it not only shows a lack of concern for the people who buy a company’s video game, but it doesn’t account for the unpredictability of sports as a whole. No one can accurately determine who is going to have a breakout season or a sub-par one at that."

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# 1 BSanders @ 07/25/08 05:24 PM
Good read... I'd rather have real-time happenings in the game instead of real life data downloads because it would seem that you would feel like you didn't have control of your team ingame. Who knows they both might be good or bad, we'll see...
 
# 2 23 @ 07/25/08 05:58 PM
Real time happenings?
 
# 3 ChaseB @ 07/25/08 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by KDRE_OS
Real time happenings?
What's the problem? Happenings = something that's taking place.
 
# 4 EWRMETS @ 07/25/08 06:59 PM
Is that really what 2k's feature is? It was my understanding that 2k's DNA is just for create a player and possibly editing.
 
# 5 23 @ 07/25/08 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ChaseB
What's the problem? Happenings = something that's taking place.

Can you explain more about this to me. What makes it so much better than the DNA thing
 
# 6 ChaseB @ 07/25/08 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by KDRE_OS
Can you explain more about this to me. What makes it so much better than the DNA thing
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Originally Posted by EWRMETS
Is that really what 2k's feature is? It was my understanding that 2k's DNA is just for create a player and possibly editing.
All we know is the following:

Adaptive AI: Adaptive AI will read, react, and adjust in real time to your strategies. Your teammates will initiate cuts, picks, and post-ups based on how you handle the ball, while your opponent modifies strategy to fit the pace of the game.

I would think it could be better in a sense because you won't need to DL anything to have the AI play differently, they'll just read and react to how you play.
 
# 7 23 @ 07/25/08 09:04 PM
Again just the same as Live, depends on how its implemented, and im not calling one better than the other.

With such limited detail at the moment, it raises alot of questions just as the DNA 365 ordeal.
 
# 8 King Gro23 @ 07/25/08 11:54 PM
Okay sounds good but thank good this is EA's system because I never remember Pau Gasol being 16% pick and roll ball handler and 15% pick and roll man and the other garbage lol idk It just looks fishy
 
# 9 tril @ 07/26/08 02:23 AM
Good idea,
but would this be really cost effective. That means sony, ea sports would have to hire number crunchers to update stats etc, especially if they plan on up****** player ratings and stats on a a daily basis.

This would be a great idea for injuries, and rookies but not an entire roster for every team, etc.

A better method would be to take a players and/or teams life time average's, cold streaks, hot streaks, etc, and work it into the code. The stats would be more random throughout a season or career/legacy etc.
 
# 10 tril @ 07/26/08 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by tril
Good idea,
but would this be really cost effective. That means sony, ea sports would have to hire number crunchers to update stats etc, especially if they plan on up****** player ratings and stats on a a daily basis.

This would be a great idea for injuries, and rookies but not an entire roster for every team, etc.

A better method would be to take a players and/or teams life time average's, cold streaks, hot streaks, etc, and work it into the code. The stats would be more random throughout a season or career/legacy etc.
In addition this can possibly turn into a paid subscription service in order to cover the costs of daily updates.
 
# 11 ChaseB @ 07/26/08 02:41 AM
Well one thing to remember is the DNA feature isn't handled by EA -- it's an outside company that gives the data. EA really doesn't need to put any manpower towards getting the data, it seems like they just needed to program the DNA system into the game and then drag-and-drop the real-life data.
 
# 12 RaychelSnr @ 07/26/08 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ChaseB
All we know is the following:

Adaptive AI: Adaptive AI will read, react, and adjust in real time to your strategies. Your teammates will initiate cuts, picks, and post-ups based on how you handle the ball, while your opponent modifies strategy to fit the pace of the game.

I would think it could be better in a sense because you won't need to DL anything to have the AI play differently, they'll just read and react to how you play.
I think 2K's is better in concept because it is more towards what is going on in the virtual game, not the real one. While I can see the advantages to using dynamic DNA for online player or something (to keep the teams as accurate as possible), if it messes with guys ratings in franchise that'd be rather strange.

I'm foreseeing a very big problem as you progress in franchise mode in Live (if anyone is playing Live that is ) in that if Dynamic DNA is still up****** in year 10....should it be? Chris Paul will be in his near 30s (virtual time) by then and I don't think what he's doing as a much younger Chris Paul should affect his on the court performance. Maybe I'm not reading it right or maybe we don't know, as I honestly haven't read up on Dynamic DNA that much yet, but if that's what it's going to do the feature is going to be a huge waste.
 
# 13 23 @ 07/26/08 08:23 PM
Thats one of those things that needs explaining in if they implemented right.

Same as adaptive AI. Will you be able to go on serious hot streaks anyhow?

Will it be able to adjust to cheese moves or exploits if they're there?

It seems like one way or another guys find em which is why i stay away from the boards at a certain time because they complain alot about them.
 
# 14 ChaseB @ 07/26/08 08:56 PM
Well the Dynamic DNA doesn't pull real-life data into your franchise, because it's your franchise.

Just thought I should clear that up (since Chris isn't a fan of reading).

Ba-ZING.
 
# 15 jewelz1132 @ 07/26/08 09:05 PM
i think if EA drops the ball with Live 09..DNA could be used to keep the game current instead of releasing NBA Live X or whatever and just get the game where it needs to be
 
# 16 goatdaddy @ 07/27/08 03:46 PM
Can you use the daily updates in dynasty? If not it won't do me any good.
 
# 17 ChaseB @ 07/27/08 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by goatdaddy
Can you use the daily updates in dynasty? If not it won't do me any good.
No you can't.
 
# 18 babythug23 @ 07/27/08 06:47 PM
They should let you do it in Season. Where you can keep the trades and DNA the same as the nba
 
# 19 ChubbyBanana @ 07/27/08 07:27 PM
I am very excited to see where this new technology will take us down the road.
 
# 20 acarrero @ 07/28/08 01:14 AM
I like the idea on a limited basis. For online play it makes sense. Sounds better for football or baseball. Will there be online franchise mode?
 

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