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Madden 09: celebration videos (IGN)

02:45 PM - June 23, 2008 by drlw322

IGN has posted some celebration video clips from Madden NFL 09.

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# 61 blackngoldfan @ 06/23/08 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by adembroski


	To be fair to IGN, is their job to hype the game, or to give us unbias info with which we are armed to make our own decision? IGN posted the vids. It's not their job to say "Well, this is just one of those mistakes that slipped through." It's their job to call it like they see it and let us decide. They're not a hype machine, they're a consumer information outlet.

Lets put it like this:

Let's say I'm on MTV Cribs and you are the MTV crew. You guys wanted me, and I gave you complete access to my home.

The video shoot is over. Now, it's time to air!! I'm sitting at home anxiously waiting to see the show.

OK, the camera is panning over to the Bentley. Oh, yeahhhh!!

The camera zooms in...........................to the bird poop on the mirror.

That's what IGN does in some of their Madden videos. They don't have to hype the game, but if they're given early access and priviledges, they should damn well give a good presentation.

If they're supposed to give us an unbiased opinion, they're doing a bad job at it.

# 62 HealyMonster @ 06/23/08 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by blackngoldfan


	Lets put it like this: Let's say I'm on MTV Cribs and you are the MTV crew. You guys wanted me, and I gave you complete access to my home. The video shoot is over. Now, it's time to air!! I'm sitting at home anxiously waiting to see the show. OK, the camera is panning over to the Bentley. Oh, yeahhhh!! The camera zooms in...........................to the bird poop on the mirror. That's what IGN does in some of their Madden videos. They don't have to hype the game, but if they're given early access and priviledges, they should damn well give a good presentation. If they're supposed to give us an unbiased opinion, they're doing a bad job at it.

wow, thats a pretty clever analogy my man. good stuff

# 63 blackngoldfan @ 06/23/08 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Renegade44


	wow, thats a pretty clever analogy my man. good stuff

Thanx

# 64 djordan @ 06/23/08 11:08 PM

O yeah..

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Originally Posted by TheFuture15


	we don't have accuracy experts working on every aspect of the game so sometimes things like this can slip through.

Im not trying to sound cold or anything but....

The hell does that mean?

how can you have someone working on an NFL LICENSED game and not know what the Lambeau Leap looks like?

I have to LOL @ "We don't have accuracy experts working on every aspect of the game"...

If you guys let something like this slip, I wonder what else did....

# 65 Ian_Cummings @ 06/23/08 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by djordan


	O yeah.. Im not trying to sound cold or anything but.... The hell does that mean? how can you have someone working on an NFL LICENSED game and not know what the Lambeau Leap looks like? I have to LOL @ "We don't have accuracy experts working on every aspect of the game"... If you guys let something like this slip, I wonder what else did....

Come on man...just think a little deeper. Think about every artist that you've met - the ones that went to art school, or film school, or worked in graphic design, or did animation for Disney films - ones that are really talented and gifted in their craft. Or folks that grew up in Japan or Korea their whole life and are relatively new to the US. You've got to realize that not every single person in a creative field like animation might not know what Green Bay players specifically do whenever they score. That's why there are folks like me around here - and unfortunately I never saw it to sign off on.

# 66 djordan @ 06/23/08 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TheFuture15


	Come on man...just think a little deeper. Think about every artist that you've met - the ones that went to art school, or film school, or worked in graphic design, or did animation for Disney films - ones that are really talented and gifted in their craft. Or folks that grew up in Japan or Korea their whole life and are relatively new to the US. You've got to realize that not every single person in a creative field like animation might not know what Green Bay players specifically do whenever they score. That's why there are folks like me around here - and unfortunately I never saw it to sign off on.

Still sounds like an excuse...

If you hire someone to work on an NFL Licensed game and told them to write code/animation for Lambeau Leap wouldn't you let them see a video or picture describing what it is?

sidenizzo-Tell the dude to code in Spider Webs comming from dude's hand and it will be perfect....

JK...I hope it's patched though I...

# 67 xtoddx @ 06/23/08 11:24 PM

I agree with poster above. Just because someone is amazing at art or the animations doesn't mean they're the best fit for the job, which in this case it doesn't seem like it was, since they've never seen a Lambeau Leap. Obviously nothing I say matters, and any criticism towards EA and this game is heathenism, but it's a matter of knowing the subject matter and not knowing it. Since this is the ONLY NFL licensed game we, as paying customers and avid fans, can play, I don't think it's too much to ask or hope that the people making have actually seen an NFL game before. Who's job is it to go through and make sure everything is at least accurate? It doesn't have to be perfect or 2k5ish, but at least make sure it's accurate! Whatever.

# 68 ODogg @ 06/23/08 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by xtoddx


	I agree with poster above. Just because someone is amazing at art or the animations doesn't mean they're the best fit for the job, which in this case it doesn't seem like it was, since they've never seen a Lambeau Leap. Obviously nothing I say matters, and any criticism towards EA and this game is heathenism, but it's a matter of knowing the subject matter and not knowing it. Since this is the ONLY NFL licensed game we, as paying customers and avid fans, can play, I don't think it's too much to ask or hope that the people making have actually seen an NFL game before. Who's job is it to go through and make sure everything is at least accurate? It doesn't have to be perfect or 2k5ish, but at least make sure it's accurate! Whatever.

# 69 xtoddx @ 06/23/08 11:34 PM

That's pretty much the response I expected. Great people here.

# 70 Danimal @ 06/23/08 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TheFuture15


	Come on man...just think a little deeper. Think about every artist that you've met - the ones that went to art school, or film school, or worked in graphic design, or did animation for Disney films - ones that are really talented and gifted in their craft. Or folks that grew up in Japan or Korea their whole life and are relatively new to the US. You've got to realize that not every single person in a creative field like animation might not know what Green Bay players specifically do whenever they score. That's why there are folks like me around here - and unfortunately I never saw it to sign off on.

No offense but you're speaking to the wrong audience here, 90% of the people on this site won't understand the logic you have used above simply because they don't work in these types of environments. I'm also a project manager who works with teams of designers, illustrators and programmers on large jobs with tight deadlines.

While it is easy for someone to say nothing like this should ever slip through and in truth they are right. The reality is that I have to trust the heads of their departments to do their jobs and if I had to check every individual piece of a project we would never hit a deadline. Unfortunately things like this do happen and while I fully expect someone to post saying that this type of stuff doesn't happen at their company, I won't believe it for a second.

None of that changes the fact that your team had the correct videos captured and someone made a pretty big mistake and signed off on this and you're left picking up the pieces. That is all people are going to get out of this and since interaction with your community (clients) is something new for your team I would just give you a piece of advice, choose your words carefully.

Personally I appreciate your truthful and forthcoming responses, but not everyone will.

# 71 ODogg @ 06/23/08 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by xtoddx


	That's pretty much the response I expected. Great people here.

meh, lighten up a little

# 72 Joborule @ 06/24/08 12:50 AM

Yuck, that's ugly. Hang your head in shame whoever did that.

If cut scenes are required to make the leap actually look like the damn thing, that I can live with. Yeesh how was that allowed...

# 73 kmart2180 @ 06/24/08 01:12 AM

I simply appreciate it for what it is. I know why it doesnt look correct (becaue they dont have animated fans, cutscene's to the fans). So if you think about it realisticly how could it be perfect without out the fans actually being able to grab the player?

I'm glad that it somehting rather than not having nothing at all. Yeah its more of a spidey wall climb but its close to what it was supposed to be.

Some people just love to complain about everything and WILL NEVER EVER BE HAPPY, you could make the best madden ever and they will find out that you forgot to give the ref a whistle or somthing along those lines. I've come to the conclusion that most madden basher's will always be madden basher's no matter what.

Instead of saying wow they really stepped up this year, the game looks amazing , plays amazing, ect.... Lets jump on the negative bus and ride it down there throats. C'mon is that lambeau leap really gonna stop you from buying the game? Get over it or simply dont trigger it.

# 74 maddenps2 @ 06/24/08 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by kmart2180


	I simply appreciate it for what it is. I know why it doesnt look correct (becaue they dont have animated fans, cutscene's to the fans). So if you think about it realisticly how could it be perfect without out the fans actually being able to grab the player? I'm glad that it somehting rather than not having nothing at all. Yeah its more of a spidey wall climb but its close to what it was supposed to be. Some people just love to complain about everything and WILL NEVER EVER BE HAPPY, you could make the best madden ever and they will find out that you forgot to give the ref a whistle or somthing along those lines. I've come to the conclusion that most madden basher's will always be madden basher's no matter what. Instead of saying wow they really stepped up this year, the game looks amazing , plays amazing, ect.... Lets jump on the negative bus and ride it down there throats. C'mon is that lambeau leap really gonna stop you from buying the game? Get over it or simply dont trigger it.

I live in Wisconsin and the Lambeau Leap means a lot to the fans and players. It connects the players and the fans. It's special and it's a great alternative to the ME ME celebrations you see by some athletes.

The Lambeau Leap, like Favre, have become universally known and loved by many fans around the nfl.

People are just stating the truth when they see the video, as it looks nothing like a Lambeau Leap. The dunk animation also looks unnatural.

It makes me wonder where the quality control in Madden is, because instantly almost everyone on this board saw how awkward the Lambeau Leap is. This years madden is supposed to be a dedication to Favre and his team the Packers. How can a celebration that was born during Favre's era be so messed up, reviewed, and than approved by quality control.

And for the excuse that the Lambeau Leap couldn't be done correct because Madden doesn't have animated fans. Well that is fixed by making a cut-scene as the player leaps into the stands. It was done last-gen if my memory serves correct. It would be nice if one year we can see closeups cut-scenes of fans walking about and wearing team wear.

Little things like this and the lack of multiple cameras frustrate madden gamers because little stuff like this should never happen. It's strange how such crucial things are overlooked year after year.

Yes madden is improving, everyone acknowledges that, but instances like this are troubling because they aren't a result of difficulty implementing, rather they are a result of lack of attention to detail and quality control.

# 75 Exonerated @ 06/24/08 04:39 AM

I reckon someone just messed up the code for the lambeau leap. Ian showed us the mocap for it so it must be in the game somewhere.

# 76 maddenps2 @ 06/24/08 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Exonerated


	I reckon someone just messed up the code for the lambeau leap. Ian showed us the mocap for it so it must be in the game somewhere.

It has nothing to do with the code, the animation they have on there is what was captured and implemented into the game. A possible explanation could be that video was titled incorrectly and that's another celebration, not the Lambeau Leap.

# 77 g2thecore @ 06/24/08 08:16 AM

Yeah I have to agree...That Lambeau Leap was pretty off......I'm no Packer fan but jeez....That was uuuugly!

# 78 Ian_Cummings @ 06/24/08 08:28 AM

Well quick update for everyone - I got in this morning and looked for myself, there's definitely good news...the bottom video that I showed above IS actually in the shipping game. The problem is that there seems to be a bug with the Green Bay-specific logic (i.e. it's not working) - so there's a random chance that you could get that Spiderman-looking thing when you run to the wall. Many people were speculating this...you all were right. It's just the wrong animation being played.

So I guess it's better than nothing, as there's a 25% chance that you'll get the actual real Lambeau Leap.

I'm still looking into whether we can patch this to be 100% though.

# 79 ODogg @ 06/24/08 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Keith121212


	LMAO!!!! Classic post.

thanks! i'm glad someone got it!

# 80 BigL @ 06/24/08 09:06 AM

Edited after reading Ian's post. Thanks Ian.

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