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Madden NFL 09: First Online Leagues Details and Video Clip

07:52 PM - April 29, 2008 by Delray

IGN has posted the first online league details for Madden 09, including a video clip of the game in action.

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	"When it comes to sports videogames it doesn't get much bigger than the yearly release of Madden Football. Some complain it's the same game year in and year out, but that doesn't stop droves of pigskin fanatics from lining up outside of their local retailers in hopes of scoring a copy. With the announcement of Brett Favre as the cover athlete for Madden NFL 09 the ball has begun to roll heading toward the game's August release."

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# 121 madmastermind @ 05/01/08 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by edubbs


	Have they added ANY new tackle animations for this game? Geez....... If i didn't know any better I would have thought that was Madden08. They really need to take the time to redo the animations in this series because, they are VERY poor. I got a funny feeling that the new online franchise mode took up the majority of their development time and the people (like me) who wanted a better animated game will once again be SCREWED. Typical EA they will pimp online leagues as the big new feature while the rest of the game suffers. It's no reason why I should be able to watch 1 minute of gameplay video and already see the majority of the tackle animations that were in the previous year's game. This game 'looks' exactly like 08 in regards to the animations.

Nuff said.

# 122 coogrfan @ 05/01/08 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv


	I bet you could make a poll on this forum and guess who would win? Lets not get it twisted this site is very pro EA.

You have got to be kidding. The EA haters have been in the majority here at OS for at least five years. Anyone who says otherwise is just plain wrong.

# 123 eDotd @ 05/01/08 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by coogrfan


	You have got to be kidding. The EA haters have been in the majority here at OS for at least five years. Anyone who says otherwise is just plain wrong.

I don't believe it's EA haters as much as it is Madden haters. MVP, NHL, FIFA, even NCAA don't recieve (or didn't recieve) nearly the amount of criticism that Madden gets.

NBA Live and Madden get trashed so much because they don't represent their respective sports in a way the hardcore sports gamer (aka the majority of OS) would like to see it represented.

# 124 coogrfan @ 05/01/08 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MomentousCeltic


	I don't believe it's EA haters as much as it is Madden haters. MVP, NHL, FIFA, even NCAA don't recieve (or didn't recieve) nearly the amount of criticism that Madden gets. NBA Live and Madden get trashed so much because they don't represent their respective sports in a way the hardcore sports gamer (aka the majority of OS) would like to see it represented.

Good points, I can't refute anything you've said.

# 125 countryboy @ 05/01/08 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv


	I bet you could make a poll on this forum and guess who would win? Lets not get it twisted this site is very pro EA. It has been, and thats ok, but you could even go to their sports tournament and its not just opinion that the 2 top games are 2k sports games. Its like that for a reason. Also, just because a game has gotten better, doesn't mean its good or even good enough. I want nothing more then to play a fun sim NFL football game. I dont care who makes it, but imo it HAS to be better then a 4 year old game. Right now in my opinion its not even close. Look through this thread and look at how many people are disappointed. Again, they are disappointed for a reason.

Yes people are disappointed and I am sure they have reasons. But I for one am not disappointed and the miracle that it may be, there are others who agree with me.

This is what I don't get. I voiced my opinion on how I think the game has gotten better and I have to be reminded on how it can't be and how its still not as good as 2k.

I played 2k. I liked it, but I prefer Madden. Thats why I post in this forum. Maybe I am making a mountain out of a molehill, but it gets frustrating that anytime I, or someone who likes Madden, posts something positive or something that we are excited about, we are constantly reminded of the negative aspects of the game and how the game still fails in comparison to 2K5.

As a Madden fan,

, I know its shortcomings. And I have problems with the game that I hope are addressed each and every year. But despite all its shortcomings and negative aspects, I still enjoy the game. I shouldn't have to "defend" my enjoyment of the game everytime I try to express my enjoyment for the game.

# 126 umd @ 05/01/08 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by countryboy


	we are constantly reminded of the negative aspects of the game and how the game still fails in comparison to 2K5.

Maybe because you always bring it up!

It's your fallback argument, just like you paint everyone who doesn't care for Madden's (or any game's) current gameplay as EA haters who are still bitter about exclusivity.

The bottom line with Madden is the gameplay is stale, bugged (TO issue) and many features (franchise, effective sliders) are broken. NFL2k5 or not.

The fact that EA released a game with a franchise mode so bugged and broken is #1 on my list of what annoys me the most. With the horrible turnover problem a close #2.

You can feel free to say how it doesn't bother you (since you've already pointed out you also bought the PS2 version just to play your Madden 08 franchise) but there are plenty of people it does bother. Some people find the notion of having to buy the same game with the same advertised features on 2 systems to use all the modes a bit ridiculous. And that has nothing to do with being an EA ***** because of exclusivity or how great the 4 year old NFL2k5 was.

Many people here are not EA haters. They just want an improved and/or at least functional football game.

Not because 2k had a franchise mode, but because working franchise/season modes have been around since Tecmo Bowl II.

# 127 countryboy @ 05/02/08 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by umd


	Maybe because you always bring it up! It's your fallback argument, just like you paint everyone who doesn't care for Madden's (or any game's) current gameplay as EA haters who are still bitter about exclusivity. The bottom line with Madden is the gameplay is stale, bugged (TO issue) and many features (franchise, effective sliders) are broken. NFL2k5 or not. The fact that EA released a game with a franchise mode so bugged and broken is #1 on my list of what annoys me the most. With the horrible turnover problem a close #2. You can feel free to say how it doesn't bother you (since you've already pointed out you also bought the PS2 version just to play your Madden 08 franchise) but there are plenty of people it does bother. Some people find the notion of having to buy the same game with the same advertised features on 2 systems to use all the modes a bit ridiculous. And that has nothing to do with being an EA ***** because of exclusivity or how great the 4 year old NFL2k5 was. Many people here are not EA haters. They just want an improved and/or at least functional football game. Not because 2k had a franchise mode, but because working franchise/season modes have been around since Tecmo Bowl II.

First and foremost, please don't wag your finger at me. Thanks.

Second, I always bring it up?? I just mentioned how I thought the game was getting better and right on que, here came the post that reminded me that it can't be getting better or even if it is getting better, its still not good.

Third, I don't paint everyone an EA ***** or that they can't get over the exclusive deal because they have issues with Madden. If that was the case, then I would have to label myself as an EA *****.

Finally. I am guessing you didn't read my entire post. I mentioned that I have problems/issues with the game. Examples?

*Excessive turnovers
*Broken franchise
*30fps on PS3
*Bad pursuit angles
*Radio guy

You can try and make me out as the bad guy or the fall guy all you want. Hell, you'll probably get people to agree with you. I really don't care. All I have been trying to do is discuss the game. To express my excitement over the next installment. But, it seems that no matter where, when, or what I say positive about the game, I am constantly reminded of its negative aspects as if I overlook them or sweep them under the rug.

# 128 Pete1210 @ 05/02/08 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MMChrisS


	I saw a few people are under the impression that online leagues are 32 human players only when in fact they are 2-32 human players according to Phil Frazier (from a post on the MM forums). Also, the Flex Scheduling allows for players to be added or dropped from the league on the fly. So if a player drops out, you can easily add another player and the schedule will adjust to get them their games.

Any indication whether the Madden leagues stats/standings/schedule, etc. will be on the PC?

# 129 JBH3 @ 05/02/08 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ColumbusKilled


	Is there anything in the world that you believe to be objectively flawed? I don't mean subjectively flawed like Coors vs Bud (Both bad choices, but given a gun to the head choice I pick Bud). But I mean something like "Poop does not taste good"? Even if someone likes to eat poop, we can all agree that it's not good and it tastes bad. Madden is poop. It is not a good representation of football. Things that happen in real life don't happen in Madden. Madden is not an accurate representation of real life, the player models don't look realistic, they are not proportionately drawn to what human beings look like, and the game is dumbed down for a mass audience. That's poop. And this forum is not only pro EA, it's modded and controlled so that anti-Madden threads cannot even exist! You wonder why people consistently talk negatively about Madden? They unfairly and monopolistically control the NFL license, therefore eradicating true competition. This means that their game MUST meet all NFL fans needs, it must meet all football fans needs who want to control their NFL teams. It not only doesn't come close, it's a VERY VERY far cry from being anything that looks like an NFL game. We (Or at least I) am not an EA *****. I hate them as a company, I think that they are monopolistic and their profits taking a hit are the ultimate karma. However I will consistently buy their games if they are better than their competition (Last year I purchased NCAA, FIFA, and NHL). Until Madden is even 50% as good as NFL2K5, I will continue to rail against it and those who are trying to put lipstick on a pig and tell me that everything's good this year.

Good post...

I just read the IGN article about the online leagues...As I don't really care for the online "league" experience (prefer franchise mode), I'm glad I don't too.

Compared to what you can do in an on-line league in a game such as NBA 2K8 versus Madden I would say this online league thing is just another Madden/EA "gimmick" to throw some "new" feature out there in the hopes of increasing sales.

If I did want to do an online league I sure as hell wouldn't want my first experience being Madden nor would I purchase this game for sake of having online leagues.

Oh,...

And the video looks the same as last year, but just w/ a new score menu and cool looking snow.

# 130 countryboy @ 05/02/08 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ColumbusKilled


	Is there anything in the world that you believe to be objectively flawed? I don't mean subjectively flawed like Coors vs Bud (Both bad choices, but given a gun to the head choice I pick Bud). But I mean something like "Poop does not taste good"? Even if someone likes to eat poop, we can all agree that it's not good and it tastes bad. Madden is poop. It is not a good representation of football. Things that happen in real life don't happen in Madden. Madden is not an accurate representation of real life, the player models don't look realistic, they are not proportionately drawn to what human beings look like, and the game is dumbed down for a mass audience. That's poop. And this forum is not only pro EA, it's modded and controlled so that anti-Madden threads cannot even exist! You wonder why people consistently talk negatively about Madden? They unfairly and monopolistically control the NFL license, therefore eradicating true competition. This means that their game MUST meet all NFL fans needs, it must meet all football fans needs who want to control their NFL teams. It not only doesn't come close, it's a VERY VERY far cry from being anything that looks like an NFL game. We (Or at least I) am not an EA *****. I hate them as a company, I think that they are monopolistic and their profits taking a hit are the ultimate karma. However I will consistently buy their games if they are better than their competition (Last year I purchased NCAA, FIFA, and NHL). Until Madden is even 50% as good as NFL2K5, I will continue to rail against it and those who are trying to put lipstick on a pig and tell me that everything's good this year.

First and foremost, that has to be the oddest comparison that I have ever seen. That one will stand out in my mind for months, maybe years to come.

And you really don't need "anti-Madden threads" of their own, there are plenty of "anti-Madden" posts littered about the various threads. In fact, they are probably in the greater number than those of people who like the game.

More importantly, instead of "railing" the game and anyone who buys it, why not stay out of the forum? That way, you can save yourself the trouble of "protecting the world from the evil EA/Madden" and more time doing something else that you enjoy, and those of us who are going to get the game and would like to discuss Madden, don't have to sift through nonsense posts such as these.

# 131 eDotd @ 05/02/08 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JBH3


	Compared to what you can do in an on-line league in a game such as NBA 2K8 versus Madden I would say this online league thing is just another Madden/EA "gimmick" to throw some "new" feature out there in the hopes of increasing sales.

How are you able to compare them so accurately already? I take it you've played the game? You have no idea of all the options the admin has or other things the online league might offer except for what was announced. And how is this a gimmick? People have wanted online leagues for the longest and now that it's in it's a gimmick?

# 132 countryboy @ 05/02/08 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MomentousCeltic


	How are you able to compare them so accurately already? I take it you've played the game? You have no idea of all the options the admin has or other things the online league might offer except for what was announced. And how is this a gimmick? People have wanted online leagues for the longest and now that it's in it's a gimmick?

Agreed.

Online leagues in Madden could be the worst thing ever, the best thing since sliced bread, or somewhere in between, which is where it will most likely end up.

Wow! I really went out on a limb there didn't I?

# 133 countryboy @ 05/02/08 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv


	Personally, i really do NOT care if you like the game or not. I will never attack someone for liking something. Even if i think its crap (which i do). Thats your choice, but for me, i want a good football game. I want something as good or better then NFL2k5. Its been almost 4 years as i have said, and EA hasnt came even close. NOt even in the same ballpark . Again, this is my opinion, but people are finally starting to realize that EA is pulling a fast one on them. It takes other longer to realize it, and others that just say, well hell, this is all i got. If people didnt moan and groan about something, then companies will NEVER fix it. Hell, i am a mod for the 2k forums and we have to make threads and ask the "fans" what was broken, what can the developers do to make the game better. I go and sift through every single post and turn in a report on what's broken and what idea's i think would be cool. I get to submit my report to the 2k PR manager and he submits it to the dev's. He then tells me what they think is cool and could possible be fit into the game. I would love for other companies to do that. Again, the fans know what works and what doesnt work. WE are the ones playing the game 500 times over. This is 2008. Its time to go next gen. IMO EA took steps back.

People discussing the good, the bad, and the ugly about a game and someone bashing the game for the simple reason of bashing it, for whatever reasons that might be, are two completely different things.

As I said, I know the shortcomings of Madden. There are things that I wish were fixed, done better, omitted, or added. But the fact remains that I like the game. And for some people on this forum, thats hard to understand and even a harder pill to swallow.

And EA has been doing the Q&A on their message board. I don't know to what extent its being done, but at least its being done.

# 134 DLaren @ 05/03/08 01:13 AM

# 135 countryboy @ 05/03/08 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv


	People have EVERY right to bash the game. This is a public discussion board. There are some people that come off saying crap this of F that, or that just sucks. I can come here and criticize the game in a mature matter (well most of the time). We all have to realize that this is the ONLY NFL Football game, and we want it done right. Not just the same thing with a new coat of paint and updated rosters. If we dont like the way it comes out and its not a good game, then what? NO football gaming for the season? NFL football is one of the biggest sports, ok it is the biggest sports selling game, but so many of us have no choice if we want to play the game. Madden gets everything it deserves good, bad and the very bad.

You do have a choice. You can still play 2k with updated rosters, if you feel that 2k is the better game although its 4 years old. Thats what I don't get. Everyone wants Madden to be more like 2k and criticize Madden for not meeting the "bar" that 2k set. Well, if 2k is so good, then play it. Why continously post your disappointments for Madden? Or worse yet, spend your money on Madden knowing that you are more than likely not going to enjoy the game.

And I don't think you understand what I am saying. I have no problem with people criticizing Madden for its faults. I do that myself. But to bash the game simply because its the only game in town, is made by EA, or its not 2k is nonsense.

# 136 countryboy @ 05/03/08 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by yvesdereuter


	Thats silly. What you completely overlook in this admonition is the fact that people upgraded machines. Not only that but EA makes promises it doesnt deliver on and then takes 4 months to fix it.

How is that silly?? Why is it silly to play a game you enjoy instead of complaining and spending money on one that you don't?

And people have updated machines??

# 137 SageInfinite @ 05/03/08 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv


	I cant believe he said the choice was a 4 year old game.

Yea I chuckled at that part too.

# 138 K_GUN @ 05/03/08 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv


	Yep, he's not getting that part. He's trying to say play a 4 year old game, and thats my choice. Well, hell, i may as fire up Tecmo Superbowl. I think i have mine in the garage somewhere packed in a coardboard box. We have NO other choice of an NFL game thats built for the Next gen console. So yes, people are going to be upset when its the same game as last year, but with new rosters. I cant believe he said the choice was a 4 year old game.

so knowing there is no other choice AND knowing EA's track record, the constant crying is pointless

move on

# 139 countryboy @ 05/03/08 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ColumbusKilled


	Yeah let's just eat the spoonfed crap they give us each year. You're exactly the reason WHY we have this bullpucky every single year. "Yes Madden, you are the greatest game ever. Oh look how great the line play is. Oh look, he's backpedaling sideways. This looks just like real life! I'll buy two copies because it's so great"

if your not gettting the game, then kindly move on. Thanks. Your constant trolling is getting old.

You've already stated that you are going to "rail" the game and anyone who buys it. That type of nonsense is not needed in the forums.

Thanks

# 140 countryboy @ 05/03/08 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv


	Yep, he's not getting that part. He's trying to say play a 4 year old game, and thats my choice. Well, hell, i may as fire up Tecmo Superbowl. I think i have mine in the garage somewhere packed in a coardboard box. We have NO other choice of an NFL game thats built for the Next gen console. So yes, people are going to be upset when its the same game as last year, but with new rosters. I cant believe he said the choice was a 4 year old game.

What I am saying is that people compare Madden to NFL 2k5 and have a reason/point to do so. Now if those people feel that 2k5 is still the superior game, then why not play it? You are considering a game to be a legend of its time, well isn't the ol'saying that "legends never die".

I mean, if you have a choice between playing something that meets your expectations vs something that doesn't, which one are you going to choose? I would hope that its the one that meets your expectations.

Like I've said before, I have gone thru this type of process myself, when the All-Star Baseball series was discontinued due to Acclaim filing bankruptcy. Yes, I was upset. And yes, I tried to find a replacement. But it wasn't until MLB The Show '07 for the PS3 that I found that game that allowed me to move on. I still play ASB because I love its in-depth franchise and expansion team modes.

Just because NFL2K5 is 4 years old, doesn't mean that it can't still be enjoyed. And yes, I understand that you shouldn't have to play 2k to get your football fix given its a last gen game and we are in the next gen era, but if thats what you're faced with, well then, thats what you're faced with.

Buying/playing Madden and being disappointed just because its the only available football game for the next gen systems, in my opinion, is silly.

And there is nothing wrong with playing Tecmo Super Bowl. I played it the other night because a buddy of mine was over and he was playing the original Ninja Gaiden for the NES, and we got to talking about TSB and the next thing I know, its late in the night and I am enjoying this oldie, but a goodie.

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