WWE Brawl Revealed Soon?

[goh]

I don't think they're ever gonna let us actually plan out the matches and as I said before that's pretty much what they'd have to do for this to really be sim. I guess they could throw in stuff that's pre-planned. On top of that I'm sure there's a decent ammount of kids out there playing still thinking it's not scripted.

[DJ]

What would be cool is if the wrestler you were using gained or lost exp. points based on the type of match he had. Did he botch a spot? Well, then knock him down a couple of points. Did he put on a great show for the fans and still took the loss? Give him credit for entertaining the fans and bump him up a few points.

OR ... you could play the role of "agent" like Pat Patterson and be the person responsible for putting a match together. You'd gain or lose points based on how well the match was received by the audience and how well the wrestlers performed during the bout.

Obviously, it's highly unlikely a game like that would ever be made. The create-a-storyline feature on SVR 10 was a nice step in the right direction but at the end of the day, the gameplay was still the same.

[stephensonmc]

Quote: Originally Posted by DonkeyJote

Is it Sim? It's a pro wrestling game. Pro Wrestling isn't sim. How many people are going to hit a vertical suplex on someone that isn't letting them do it. While wrestling is athletic, it is not a sport - it's a performance. You might as well expect Alien vs. Predator to be "sim". I think the big thing they should do is stop trying to make this a sports game and let it be about having great epic matches, not necessarily winning and losing. I think that'd be a ton of fun, would work better, and you could have a really cool career mode if it was a behind the scenes type of career mode, where it's acknowledged you are playing a character.

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As for this game, I def think that they could do a better job of "capturing the sport" like someone else said, there is no point in making everything more "realistic". Capture the atmosphere, the promos, the ups and downs of matches and typical wrestling stuff. Every wrestler loses. Even the greatest ones lose all the time. There isnt a person in the WWE where every match we already know the outcome. Obviously when belts are on the line and its PPV matches, we can make better guesses as to who will win. The thing is that in all of these games like road to wrestlemania, etc. You are not allowed to lose. Not saying that there shouldt be consequences, but there should be times where you face like 4 people at once and they beat you instead of win after win after win.

everything you just named "Renegade44" would make it a "sim," that's all I'm saying.

Substitute the word "sim" for "authentic" and I think we have a winner

There is such thing as being as true to what you're trying to resemble as possible. If SvR was as true to what the WWE puts out there every week, it would be a true simulation of the WWE, hence the word "sim."

No reason to think of the word "sim" in our typical fishbowl world of sports games.

As for AvP, you don't think that diehard fans of AvP wanted a game that was "authentic" to their beliefs on the franchise? I think so...

Great idea on the "epic matches" though. I was thinking about this the other day, and wondering how it could be done. I remember playing NCAA Football 2004, and when you played your first big game online or offline, you found out that it made your "greatest games" list. Maybe something like that could work...??

[SmashMan]

Quote: Originally Posted by stephensonmc

Great idea on the "epic matches" though. I was thinking about this the other day, and wondering how it could be done. I remember playing NCAA Football 2004, and when you played your first big game online or offline, you found out that it made your "greatest games" list. Maybe something like that could work...??

It's a good idea, but what would the criteria be? Match length? Maybe it's primarily based on length but overall of the wrestlers, and whether the match is for a title or has a stipulation attached gives boosts? It's definitely an idea that would be cool to have.

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My issue with the current games is that I would like a more TV-style presentation. I like the "WWE Live" in the lower left of the screen and the removal of the HUD, but adding in the mini titantron videos on the secondary screens during entrances would make the entrances that much more engaging. Mimicking actual camera angles brings us that much closer to being in the ring, so to speak.

On the gameplay side of it, they've added the "abilities" but everyone is still too similar that it shortens the life span of the game. Why have a large roster when the characters feel the same? Kane reacts the same as Evan Bourne, who punches the same way as Edge, and so on. I don't expect individual punch/kick/selling styles for everyone, but something to differentiate would be great.

All that being said, I agree with others that this WWE Brawl game sounds (by name alone) like it's of the "arcade" style, which means my suggestions of the past two paragraphs wouldn't apply. For an arcade game, I liked how you leveled up to more powerful moves in Legends of WrestleMania, but the movesets were really lacking on all levels. If a similar system made its' way to WWE Brawl, it would benefit from more moves.

[stlstudios189]

I loved Legends of Wrestlemania if this is the sequel I'm in baby.

[goh]

Quote: Originally Posted by stephensonmc

There is such thing as being as true to what you're trying to resemble as possible. If SvR was as true to what the WWE puts out there every week, it would be a true simulation of the WWE, hence the word "sim." Great idea on the "epic matches" though. I was thinking about this the other day, and wondering how it could be done. I remember playing NCAA Football 2004, and when you played your first big game online or offline, you found out that it made your "greatest games" list. Maybe something like that could work...??

But we want to wrestle! Not cut 20 minute promos and then spend 10 minutes yelling at the guest host for not putting us in a match and then watching Masters,Hornswaggle and the Bellas do something stupid.

They had those long ago didn't they? All the way back to SD 2? They had star ratings after matches and a whole seperate page with win and loss records with #1 contenders and average match rating. I thought they had that anyway. Some game had it.

[stephensonmc]

Quote: Originally Posted by goh

But we want to wrestle! Not cut 20 minute promos and then spend 10 minutes yelling at the guest host for not putting us in a match and then watching Masters,Hornswaggle and the Bellas do something stupid. They had those long ago didn't they? All the way back to SD 2? They had star ratings after matches and a whole seperate page with win and loss records with #1 contenders and average match rating. I thought they had that anyway. Some game had it.

I agree man!

[BastionBooger]

Quote: Originally Posted by stlstudios189

I loved Legends of Wrestlemania if this is the sequel I'm in baby.

Absolutely but it does need improvement and how I wish for a bigger roster. Add in the likes of Savage, Steamboat, Orndorff, Demolition, Sid, Martel, Santana, Earthquake, Powers of Pain and the likes and I'll be a happy man. Oh how I miss those days.

= Old skool wrestling