Stamina starting pitcher

[tapageurs25]

Does anyone have a formula to calculate the stamina of a starting pitcher

[reyes the roof]

Stamina is one of the more flawed ratings in the game. These days pretty much every starter can give you 80-90 pitches, but the game seems to equate pitchers that pitch deep in to games as having higher stamina when in reality they’re just more efficient with their pitches

[Detroit Tigers]

Starter stamina slider at 7 and see most starters able to go ~90 pitches before getting gassed, and higher-stam guys able to go ~110 which seems pretty good to me.

Edit: I know that’s not what you asked; I say that bc yeah I agree they seem kinda arbitrary. 72, 79, 83, it barely matters, and it seems like 90% of SPs are in the 70s.

[Caulfield]

Quote: Originally Posted by tapageurs25

Does anyone have a formula to calculate the stamina of a starting pitcher

this is what I have:
99 = 7 ip/g
90 = 6.5 ip/g
80 = 6 ip/g
70 = 5.5 ip/g
60 = 5 ip/g

[DonkeyJote]

Quote: Originally Posted by tapageurs25

Does anyone have a formula to calculate the stamina of a starting pitcher

Not necessarily a formula, but I did make this chart trying to equate SDS's stamina ratings into pit/GS and max pitches. The idea being that, for example, an 85 stamina rating equates to about 90 pitches per start, and a max of about 109.

Personally, I think equating stamina to Innings Pitched isn't the right way to go (though I do think that's what SDS probably does). Because if two pitchers have the same stamina, but one walks and/or strikes out more hitters than the other, they're probably going to throw fewer innings despite having the same stamina.

EDIT: In case it wasn't clear, blue dots/the bottom line are Pitches/GS, and orange dots/the top line are Max Pitches for the season. I plotted numbers from 2021 with their launch stamina ratings.

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[mattynokes]

Formulas
SP: BF/G x 3.375
RP: BF/G x 3.375 x 1.25

Sliders
SP Stamina: 7
RP Stamina: 6

I like to warm up RPs when I sense the SP is getting close to the yellow. When the SP is in the yellow, I might allow him to throw to 1-2 more batters before he needs to go. I figure SPs can go 20-25% more than their stamina rating (80 stamina can go 96-100 pitches before he's spent). RPs can pretty much only go right to their stamina rating, maybe a little below it. Below is a few examples with the 2011 Braves:

Johnny Venters: 4.20 BF/G x 3.375 x 1.25 = 18 Stamina (Averaged 15.56 Pitches per Game)
Brandon Beachy: 23.64 BF/G x 3.375 = 80 Stamina (Avg 96.68)
Tim Hudson: 26.79 BF/6 x 3.375 = 90 Stamina (Avg 97.09)
Cristhian Martinez: 6.70 BF/G x 3.375 x 1.25 = 28 Stamina (Avg 24.05)

[tessl]

Quote: Originally Posted by Caulfield

this is what I have: 99 = 7 ip/g 90 = 6.5 ip/g 80 = 6 ip/g 70 = 5.5 ip/g 60 = 5 ip/g

Based upon my experience I agree. Do you remember what the stamina % is where attributed begin to decline. The developers said what it was a few years ago when they implemented a change. I think it's 25% but not sure. They also said once the pitcher enters stamina penalty his attributes get progressively worse.

[Caulfield]

Quote: Originally Posted by tessl

Based upon my experience I agree. Do you remember what the stamina % is where attributed begin to decline. The developers said what it was a few years ago when they implemented a change. I think it's 25% but not sure. They also said once the pitcher enters stamina penalty his attributes get progressively worse.

yeah, I think it's like 25% for starting pitchers and 50% for relievers