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Old 11-07-2016, 10:25 PM   #361
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Because it's good contextual defense. There is nothing wrong with the defense in that video - the only real breakdown os the J. R. Smith 3 and that's a PNR issue... not a double team

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Old 11-07-2016, 10:26 PM   #362
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This dude Dirk must have 2k25 cause it ain't 2k17. Unreal man. I want the game you're playing. I would love to see your slider set for this game bro.
Stop pretending it's only 1 person enjoying the game just because you haven't found the right balance.
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Old 11-07-2016, 10:28 PM   #363
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Huh? That video shows terrible defense and no awareness at all or defensive logic. IMO.
Then, respectfully, you may not understand what you're looking at. Because the first set he showed was played pretty well by the defense.

Kyrie has 21 pts in the first half, while Kevin love has 6 or something. He then calls an iso for Kyrie, the game's leading scorer, which puts Love in the paint to allow Kyrie move to work. The defender is a weak defender and help comes to slow down or prevent Kyrie from scoring (again). Kyrie passes to Love and Embiid, or whomever, immediately closes out which forces Love to pass or put up a contested shot. This leads to another contested shot and a miss. LeBron gets the rebound and gets a foul.

That's just the first set he showed and that's good defense. The offense wasn't able to burn the perimeter defense due to the help defense and the paint protection contested the shot both times.

The only bad defense in the video is the J. R. shot and thats because the defense broke down due to back hedging and poor defense. The defender on Smith came over to stop Kyrie, who is currently the game's leading scorer.

The Love 3 was good defense because the defense was looking to protect the paint since LeBron was on the elbow with Anderson. That defender can not stop LeBron amd a decision had to be made on who helped, which is why the defender rotated off of Love. It was good defense against phenomenal offense.

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Old 11-07-2016, 10:30 PM   #364
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Because it's good contextual defense. There is nothing wrong with the defense in that video - the only real breakdown os the J. R. Smith 3 and that's a PNR issue... not a double team

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Why would they double to purposely force a pass to Love in the paint? One of the main objectives of defense is to keep the ball out of the paint, not to give wide open shots at the nail.

Also, you don't abandon 3pt shooters like the other examples. You stay connected to them, maybe show in the driving/passing lane, but get back to the body of the shooter. Rim protecters come into play if the perimeter defender is beaten. The craziest part is that the shots come off of very little movement, it's just a dude standing there like "this idiot ran in the opposite direction, gimme the ball!!!!!" Both JR & Love (3pt shot) are within 5' of where they were before the ball handler received the ball & ultimately passed the ball to the 3pt shooter.

There's no defense that teaches that. That's not a defensive breakdown, I don't even know what to call it.

I've never seen someone turn their back on Korver & sprint to double the ball handler 10' away.

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Old 11-07-2016, 10:32 PM   #365
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Does anyone have a answer for stopping my teammates (mainly bigs) from randomly leaving their assignment? I adjust the defensive settings but it's still a issue for me, Hassan Whiteside just destroyed me because my bigs that were supposed to be guarding him would leave him open randomly in the paint

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Old 11-07-2016, 10:34 PM   #366
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Why would they double to purposely force a pass to Love in the paint? One of the main objectives of defense is to keep the ball out of the paint, not to give wide open shots at the nail.

Also, you don't abandon 3pt shooters like the other examples. You stay connected to them, maybe show in the driving/passing lane, but get back to the body of the shooter. Rim protecters come into play if the perimeter defender is beaten. The craziest part if that the shots come off of very little movement, it's just a dude standing there like "this idiot ran in the opposite direction, gimme the ball!!!!!" Both JR & Love (3pt shot) are within 5' of where they were before the ball handler received the ball & ultimately passed the ball to the 3pt shooter.

There's no defense that teaches that. That's not a defensive breakdown, I don't even know what to call it.

I've never seen someone turn their back on Korver & sprint to double the ball handler 10' away.
Because Kyrie was eating his defender alive. That's why I said contextual defense. The double team does not happen if Kyrie doesn't have 21+ points, plus the Sixers bigs were in place to close out on Love since the paint was packed, which is exactly whay happened.

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Old 11-07-2016, 10:36 PM   #367
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Does anyone have a answer for stopping my teammates (mainly bigs) from randomly leaving their assignment? I adjust the defensive settings but it's still a issue for me, Hassan Whiteside just destroyed me because my bigs that were supposed to be guarding him would leave him open randomly in the paint

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I'm so glad you brought this up..this is a major issue that the Bigs are leaving their man why why why???...I currently have no work around on this one!!!
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