NBA 2K17 Patch 1.05 Coming Soon, Fixes Roster Update Issue, Pro-Am & More

[jxelite2430]

Quote: Originally Posted by Jrocc23

Cmon bro, you're coming at Smirkins neck hard lol. He's just saying what he sees. I would hope he isn't just sitting up lying about that. While I do agree w/ you 100%. If he says his game plays well and is enjoying it, let him have that. I still believe he has a much better version than the rest of us lol or is a guru w/ the sliders and roster changes and might need to be hired by 2K if all the stuff he's seeing is from the results of his changes. This patch is big for me. If a lot of this stuff isn't fixed. This will be the least I've played 2K. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Here's the difference I'm bringing video evidence that me and others experience that's not going at anyone's neck it's presenting facts.

"I still believe he has a much better version than the rest of us"
You decide to beat around the bush I like to speak directly but we both are saying the same thing toward him.

[LorenzoDC]

Quote: Originally Posted by Gosens6

I got nothing against Dirk at all, but, why hasn't he shared his rosters or sliders with the community? Most of the video evidence he's provided hasn't really been evidence of much. If he really is having such a great experience, and somehow not experiencing the rest of the problems we are, why not share his findings with the community? A quick screen shot of his sliders, a quick upload of his rosters so people here at OS cab enjoy the wealth. Why none of that? This is why people aren't taking him seriously. Every time someone asks him to share what he has, the question is avoided or dodged. Like I said, I don't have a problem with him, and I'm glad he's enjoying the game, but come on. Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk

I think that's fair to ask of anyone who's an active OS'er, if they have something going on with their settings that could help others, share the details. Telling people they're wrong in threads is not so helpful. Showing them how they can enjoy the game is.

[The 24th Letter]

Whats the end game here? To prove that Dirk isnt enjoying the game?

If I were him, I wouldn't share the info in what has turned into a bit of a hostile enviroment either. (And who knows, he could be sharing privately)

From the responses I am seeing you would think his original comment was: "None if your issues are legitimate, my settings make the game play perfectly" Unless I missed something, he only shared his positive experience, just like people are sharing tbeir negative ones.

[Nukleopatra]

They obviously agree with the majority, or there wouldn't be a patch coming. But yeah, I stop taking anyone seriously, when they say the CPU ball handlers randomly walk out of bounds ''once every five games.''

I'll just wait for the patch, and let him enjoy his game.

[Gosens6]

Quote: Originally Posted by The 24th Letter

Whats the end game here? To prove that Dirk isnt enjoying the game? If I were him, I wouldn't share the info in what has turned into a bit of a hostile enviroment either. (And who knows, he could be sharing privately) From the responses I am seeing you would think his original comment was: "None if your issues are legitimate, my settings make the game play perfectly" Unless I missed something, he only shared his positive experience, just like people are sharing tbeir negative ones.

24, the end game for me at least is to grab at ANYTHING that will help me enjoy this game right now.

Isn't that what OS is for? To collaborate and help the community? Who's being hostile towards him? We're all asking for help, and it comes across a bit pretentious of him to say he's enjoying the game cause of great sliders and rosters, but he won't help us out.

It's his decision of course, but some of us really want to enjoy the game as much as he is.

Being a member of OS since 2007, that's all the community used to be. Helping others any way you can with whatever findings you have.

I honestly hate what has happened to this forum. I don't think it's too much to ask of dirk to throw us a bone and help us out if he's being honest with his analysis of the game.

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[LorenzoDC]

Quote: Originally Posted by The 24th Letter

Whats the end game here? To prove that Dirk isnt enjoying the game? If I were him, I wouldn't share the info in what has turned into a bit of a hostile enviroment either. (And who knows, he could be sharing privately) From the responses I am seeing you would think his original comment was: "None if your issues are legitimate, my settings make the game play perfectly" Unless I missed something, he only shared his positive experience, just like people are sharing tbeir negative ones.

I'm late to this, and only just saw this conversation when I commented on it just now.

My only wish is that people who are active in the community give back to the community. I do what I can, though I have less to offer now as I just have not been able to get the game to play enjoyably for me so I've stopped playing.

But when it comes to giving back to the community - posting tips, sliders, making videos, answering questions - I'm just asking others to do more of that in a positive, constructive way, not specific to any names or individuals.

[Nukleopatra]

Quote: Originally Posted by LorenzoDC

I'm late to this, and only just saw this conversation when I commented on it just now. My only wish is that people who are active in the community give back to the community. I do what I can, though I have less to offer now as I just have not been able to get the game to play enjoyably for me so I've stopped playing. But when it comes to giving back to the community - posting tips, sliders, making videos, answering questions - I'm just asking others to do more of that in a positive, constructive way, not specific to any names or individuals.

You can ask the best roster/slider makers at this site - they're just as frustrated as we are. There's nothing he can post, that fixes the many issues we're seeing. He just prefers not to see them. When the patch notes come out, I'm sure they'll locate most of what we're seeing, and we can rest at night knowing it's not our imagination.

I'm a player lock player, so I get to see issues by the CPU from both sides. He sees the ball handlers walking out of bounds 'once every five games.' I don't buy that, but I'll play along. I'm seeing it about three times per game, in key moments of games... with no one around the ball handler. There's no doubt in my mind, that this issue will not get addressed, and that's okay, as long as the other issues do.

[trekfan]

Quote: Originally Posted by Gosens6

24, the end game for me at least is to grab at ANYTHING that will help me enjoy this game right now. Isn't that what OS is for? To collaborate and help the community? Who's being hostile towards him? We're all asking for help, and it comes across a bit pretentious of him to say he's enjoying the game cause of great sliders and rosters, but he won't help us out. It's his decision of course, but some of us really want to enjoy the game as much as he is. Being a member of OS since 2007, that's all the community used to be. Helping others any way you can with whatever findings you have. I honestly hate what has happened to this forum. I don't think it's too much to ask of dirk to throw us a bone and help us out if he's being honest with his analysis of the game. Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk

I hear you, man, but Dirk doesn't have to help. We're all at our rope's end here and the frustration is in every thread, but if he tosses out his sliders/settings/rosters and people don't get his results, I guarantee you someone's going to be taking shots at him.

And that is exactly why I completely understand if he or anyone else says, "Nah, I'll keep it to myself" because the environment right now is that hostile. If he puts out his stuff and it's not the cure-all that we want, there will be a backlash.

That's where we are, as a community. If someone offers help, offers a roster, offers a draft class and it doesn't work for everyone else like it worked for them, they're very likely to get hammered.

Ultimately, it is not up to Dirk or anyone outside 2K to improve the game. That's 2K's job, they actively get paid to do that. The community has been amazing at improving on what they've given us in the past, but I think 2K might have come to rely on the community picking up the slack a bit too much this year ... and as a result, we're all here:

Desperate for a solution to any one of the multitude of problems, looking at those that say they're have a great time with the game and asking them, arms wide, "Where's the proof? Where's your roster? Where's your settings? Why aren't you sharing them?"

We've gotten to the point where we're accusing other members of the community of being untruthful or baseless in their claims, despite no proof one way or another -- even if the majority of us agree that the game has many issues and it's holding all of us back, just because we agree to it doesn't make it necessarily true. Dirk may very well be having the experience he says and that's absolutely possible, because his experience is based on his perception, his mindset, and his own custom settings.

Asking for his sliders/settings/rosters etc, is fine, but the tone this conversation has taken is not conducive to a positive outcome. No one wants to help someone else when others are implying they're being untruthful, especially with the way the community is right now.

The majority of us are having a negative experience with the game and Dirk is having a positive one; these are not mutually exclusive things and both can be true at the same time. Let's not rake someone over the coals for having a different take on things ... that's not what OS is about. We come here to exchange our views and ideas on the things we love.

And we need to bring that back.