EA Sports UFC 2 Patch 1.07 Coming Soon, Here Are Some Details

[Phobia]

Quote: Originally Posted by Boiler569

I really don't wanna be a Debbie Downer...but there will always be cheese/exploits/etc. in a video game ;( hell, that happens in real life too if you think about it lol (PEDs)

Oh trust me I know Boiler, but I find there is more in this years game than UFC 1. I enjoy this years more but I find there is more to take advantage of for the guys who like to find/use exploits.

[bmlimo]

to bad for clinch spammers kkkk now i know why in one fight i couldnt deny a guy after i hit him

[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by Find_the_Door

I don't think you quite grasp what Ultimate Team and $10,000 tournaments are intended to do. 1) Get people to pay 2) Get people to play Both significant in the grand scheme as it builds brand loyalty, and future purchases are more likely of proceeding titles.

I grasp it. UT is a great way for the game to generate revenue. The difference is hardcore fans arent the ones buying UT packs. Casual fans are. Hardcore fans are more likely to grind to generate enough in game currency to buy packs.

The 10k tournaments are to promote the game and to give the hardcore community a reason to play the game longer. These tournaments dont generate revenue for EA. It actually costs them money. EA has to pay the winner 10k. It has to fly the finalists into Las Vegas and pay for their lodging. It has to rent the space at the UFC Expo to hold the finals. Its a marketing opportunity to get more people to buy the game not a revenue generator in itself.

Regarding brand loyalty, why does that matter when the UFC is the only brand that matters? I've said this before, EA couldve completely crapped the bed with UFC 2 and most people here wouldve buy UFC 3 as long as the game looked like a huge improvement. Why? Because the bottom line is hardcore fans just want a good MMA game and if a company offers one, they wont care about how much the previous game sucked.

Especially when there is no competition. Brand loyalty matters when there is competition.

[ryan4889]

LOVE IT!!! Finally the clinch spammers (ahem fish) will have to learn to fight realistically lol. The nerf to knees is obviously a welcome thing that badly needed fixed.

[SUGATA]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

LOL. You didnt answer any of my questions. Just because a fix was made before doesnt mean its easy. Priorities change. Manpower changes. What they were able to do in UFC 1 doesnt mean that they have the time or manpower to do it for UFC 2. GPD has responded to your threads and posts before. Just because you dont like or agree with his answers doesnt mean he hasnt responded. As for devs creating threads to generate ideas, I see a big thread at the top of this forum where GPD asked for suggestions on grappling positions. Also, he's confirmed that striking isnt likely to be touched for UFC 2. So why would he create a thread asking suggestions when its not being changed for UFC 2 and its too early for discussion about UFC 3?

Stop. What questions??
I always answer to questions and i am always responsible for my words.

I see only one question in yr post:

Spoiler

Lets play a game:

Before I play this game, let me make one thing clear. THIS IS NOT BASED ON FACT OR ANYTHING THE DEVS HAVE TOLD ME.

So lets say you are appointed a gamechanger. Lets say you have great ideas for how to change something like the combo modifier. You can explain it from the technical side and in your opinion, the fix is relatively easy.

So you pitch it to the devs and their response is:

That fix (that you think is easy) would cost a significant amount of money and time to fix for UFC 2. Especially given that they may have started working on a new game, they dont plan to fix it until next game.

or

That while people on the forums hate the combo modifier, they've determined from surveys and social media that most people like the combo modifier.

or

That a higher up at EA likes the combo modifier and thinks it should remain.

WHAT WOULD BE YOUR RESPONSE?

There is alot more to being a gamechanger than just identifying an issue and proposing how to fix it. Alot more things to take into consideration other than you wanting an issue to be fixed.


None of these are the reasons for why the combo modifier is in place. But they could be reasons for why features that people hate on the forums remain in the game.

The reason why you dont likely see the Gamechangers posting with idea threads is because they can take their input directly to the devs. They dont need to post in the forums first to take their idea or issues to the devs.

I dont know how many times I can tell you this. The devs read the forums. They have read your threads. They are aware of the issues in the game that have been posted about.

Just because you think a fix is easy....doesnt mean its actually easy. Just because something you want doesnt get fixed doesnt mean the devs are "ignoring" you.


It just means that they have a short amount of time and manpower (right now) and have to prioritize fixes. The majority were complaining about clinch issues. Only you (and a few others) were complaining about the color of the ps4 light or a speed bonus from sway. So....the devs are going to look are going to give priority to the issues that THE MAJORITY cares about.

My response:
1) Statistics said (here on forum, in our 8K social group) the most dont like current striking. This is a fact. If dev you want success for UFC 3 you MUST to change it. Have u as a GC done it?
2) How? I will crate a thread on forum here to make a discussion how to change striking to its best. I will resume it and bring it to devs for follow up discussion w them. Have u as GC done it?

I will done it. I will gather the most useful info and will give the ideas to devs brecause THE NEED IT and this is the cause of this forum existence!




Next. You said devs was possible to make some fixes before but now they can not. They can but they dont want because of business plan. OK! But we have our business plan too and next time we will think twice to buy or not buy UFC 3. the same logic!

Next. You said GPD answered me. Not true. I created many threads woth constructive criticism w/o complaining or blaming. Onle 1 or 2 of them were responded by GPD, and his answer was "We will try to reproduce this bug."
I spend my time to make ven more video illustrations, after 10 days i asked have u reproduce? no response... now patch spoilers: no even a word about this. This is nearly a disrespect to the author. At least this is frustrates me and force me to not loose my time on _constructive_ feedback. This is the result!

[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by SUGATA

Stop. What questions?? I always answer to questions and i am always responsible for my words. I see only one question in yr post: Spoiler Lets play a game: Before I play this game, let me make one thing clear. THIS IS NOT BASED ON FACT OR ANYTHING THE DEVS HAVE TOLD ME. So lets say you are appointed a gamechanger. Lets say you have great ideas for how to change something like the combo modifier. You can explain it from the technical side and in your opinion, the fix is relatively easy. So you pitch it to the devs and their response is: That fix (that you think is easy) would cost a significant amount of money and time to fix for UFC 2. Especially given that they may have started working on a new game, they dont plan to fix it until next game. or That while people on the forums hate the combo modifier, they've determined from surveys and social media that most people like the combo modifier. or That a higher up at EA likes the combo modifier and thinks it should remain. WHAT WOULD BE YOUR RESPONSE? There is alot more to being a gamechanger than just identifying an issue and proposing how to fix it. Alot more things to take into consideration other than you wanting an issue to be fixed. None of these are the reasons for why the combo modifier is in place. But they could be reasons for why features that people hate on the forums remain in the game. The reason why you dont likely see the Gamechangers posting with idea threads is because they can take their input directly to the devs. They dont need to post in the forums first to take their idea or issues to the devs. I dont know how many times I can tell you this. The devs read the forums. They have read your threads. They are aware of the issues in the game that have been posted about. Just because you think a fix is easy....doesnt mean its actually easy. Just because something you want doesnt get fixed doesnt mean the devs are "ignoring" you. It just means that they have a short amount of time and manpower (right now) and have to prioritize fixes. The majority were complaining about clinch issues. Only you (and a few others) were complaining about the color of the ps4 light or a speed bonus from sway. So....the devs are going to look are going to give priority to the issues that THE MAJORITY cares about. My response: 1) Statistics said (here on forum, in our 8K social group) the most dont like current striking. This is a fact. If dev you want success for UFC 3 you MUST to change it. Have u as a GC done it? 2) How? I will crate a thread on forum here to make a discussion how to change striking to its best. I will resume it and bring it to devs for follow up discussion w them. Have u as GC done it? I will done it. I will gather the most useful info and will give the ideas to devs brecause THE NEED IT and this is the cause of this forum existence! Next. You said devs was possible to make some fixes before but now they can not. They can but they dont want because of business plan. OK! But we have our business plan too and next time we will think twice to buy or not buy UFC 3. the same logic! Next. You said GPD answered me. Not true. I created many threads woth constructive criticism w/o complaining or blaming. Onle 1 or 2 of them were responded by GPD, and his answer was "We will try to reproduce this bug." I spend my time to make ven more video illustrations, after 10 days i asked have u reproduce? no response... now patch spoilers: no even a word about this. This is nearly a disrespect to the author. At least this is frustrates me and force me to not loose my time on _constructive_ feedback. This is the result!

The language barrier makes it difficult for me to understand everything you are saying but I'll try my best.

1) Your stats dont work. There arent 8k members of this forum alone. Even if there were 8k members maybe 1% of them actually post here consistently. You can see that just by reading the threads. Its the same 50-100 people posting all the time. Out of that 1%, the majority of the 1% hates the current striking.

2) Your response doesnt really make sense. In the scenario, the devs gave you 3 reasons why they cant change the combo modifier. The first reason isnt stats related. They dont have the manpower or time to fix the issues. The second one is that they have different data that shows that more people like the combo modifier. The third is a higher-up likes the modifier and wants to keep it.

Showing stats that people on the forums hate the striking doesnt change the above reasons. Creating a thread alone doesnt change the above reasons.

3) Regarding your business plan, maybe you wont buy UFC 3 because they didnt make any of your changes for UFC 2....but I bet you will. If they made significant changes to striking, added more features, more animations, more customization....damn near everyone who bought UFC2 would likely buy UFC 3.

4) Regarding GPD, he responded to your "Solve Lags" thread. He responded to your "Does Combo multiplier work on ground thread' (multiple times in fact). He responded to your "How to evade strikes on the ground" thread. He responded to your "Sway Issue" thread. That is all in the last 2 weeks.

In fact other than the patch spoilers threads, he has responded to your threads MORE than anyone elses on this site.

Not to defend GPD but the guy doesnt work for you or any of us. He doenst have to respond to you or anyone here. Regarding the sway issue, he said he would send it to the QA team to see if they can reproduce it. He didnt give you a timeline when he would have a response. ****, he didnt even say he would give you a response.

He owes you, me or anyone here nothing. I get that its frustrating that you dont get what you want when you want it but your expectations are a little high. Especially for a game that costs $60.

[norml]

Quote: Originally Posted by GameplayDevUFC

Except that we are buffing takedowns in a couple of ways, you just haven't heard about that yet...

Looks like I might have to go back and pick up a used copy of UFC 2. Can't wait to here what was changed.

[Boiler569]

Quote: Originally Posted by norml

Looks like I might have to go back and pick up a used copy of UFC 2. Can't wait to here what was changed.

yes this is good news, standing TDs need some help one way or another, should be interesting