Madden NFL 17 Address All 3 Phases of the Game: Offense, Defense & Special Teams

[BezO]

Quote: Originally Posted by SolidSquid

I don't even care about tiered offensive play calling but if they give us tiered defense with new gap control I'll be coming up with exotic blitz looks and packages. My fingers are crossed

Most folks don't mention or request re-tiering offensive play calling, but it's tied to the reason we want/need formation subs. The playbook ties formation to personnel. It shouldn't. We should be able to select them separately. Most just want to do it Madden style... formation subs.

[Reed1417]

I've been playing Madden for a long time, even played that other football game for a long time too. Can someone explain to me what exactly tiered play calling is? Cause when I see that word I think of levels of whatever you are referring to. Sorry if this clutters the thread I'm just curious. This is coming from a sim guy too hahaha!

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[BezO]

Quote: Originally Posted by Reed1417

I've been playing Madden for a long time, even played that other football game for a long time too. Can someone explain to me what exactly tiered play calling is? Cause when I see that word I think of levels of whatever you are referring to. Sorry if this clutters the thread I'm just curious. This is coming from a sim guy too hahaha! Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk

Tiering would allow us to select front, blitzes/stunts and coverage independently, opposed to picking from the pre-packaged combinations EA provides.

Defense is more about concepts than "plays". Madden provides plays instead of letting us create those concepts.

[Big FN Deal]

Quote: Originally Posted by BezO

Most folks don't mention or request re-tiering offensive play calling, but it's tied to the reason we want/need formation subs. The playbook ties formation to personnel. It shouldn't. We should be able to select them separately. Most just want to do it Madden style... formation subs.

Lol, I just was asking you about this in another thread and I thought that might be the gist of your point, ask for fundamental fixes not bandaids. We've had that discussion in the past and I still say something is better than nothing, ie I don't think most people want it Madden style but if that's the best we can get right now, we'll take it, with regard to certain things.

[BezO]

Quote: Originally Posted by Reed1417

I've been playing Madden for a long time, even played that other football game for a long time too. Can someone explain to me what exactly tiered play calling is? Cause when I see that word I think of levels of whatever you are referring to. Sorry if this clutters the thread I'm just curious. This is coming from a sim guy too hahaha! Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk

Tiering would allow us to select front, blitzes/stunts and coverage independently, opposed to picking from the pre-packaged combinations EA provides. Defense is more about concepts than "plays". Madden provides plays instead of letting us create those concepts.

Similar on offense. Madden ties formations to personnel. You select Spread, for example, and Madden gives you 4 WRs. But that look can be run with any personnel... base, 3 WRs, 3 TEs, etc. Most want formation subs to address that short coming, but re-tiering offense play calling, allowing independently selection of personnel and formation would give the freedom that NFL coaches have.

[BezO]

Quote: Originally Posted by Big FN Deal

Lol, I just was asking you about this in another thread and I thought that might be the gist of your point, ask for fundamental fixes not bandaids. We've had that discussion in the past and I still say something is better than nothing, ie I don't think most people want it Madden style but if that's the best we can get right now, we'll take it, with regard to certain things.

I'll check for that post.

But developers listen to thier fans, we hope. We ask for formation subs, more hot routes, etc, they're likely to deliver that. Let's ask for what it should be and let them take baby steps on the way to that if necessary. I see so few folks talking about the problems with the offensive play calling (a few more regarding defense) that I'm not sure developers are aware there's a problem. They acknowledge the desire for form subs. I've not seen a developer talk about the tiering since I visited them in 2010.

[Reed1417]

Ah I gotcha. I think I understand it more now. I was always more of a baseball guy, never played football so that would explain why I'm not too familiar with all this stuff. It's sorta like creating a play based on the stunts, blitzes and coverages all put together? You know what I mean?


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[mrprice33]

Quote: Originally Posted by BezO

I'll check for that post. But developers listen to thier fans, we hope. We ask for formation subs, more hot routes, etc, they're likely to deliver that. Let's ask for what it should be and let them take baby steps on the way to that if necessary. I see so few folks talking about the problems with the offensive play calling (a few more regarding defense) that I'm not sure developers are aware there's a problem. They acknowledge the desire for form subs. I've not seen a developer talk about the tiering since I visited them in 2010.

I think it would require such a fundamental rewrite of basically everything that it's going to be a while before we see tiered play calling on either side of the ball.