Madden NFL 17 Releases on August 23, Cover Athlete & Gameplay Trailer on May 12

[SageInfinite]

Quote: Originally Posted by Gridiron

I'm not sure I follow, because AFAIK, AI is what tells the animated model what to do. Without it, how would the model choose where to go or what to do? Just sounds like a shortcoming of both things. Not having animations to address situations, and AI issues having players do things they shouldn't do.

Which leads exactly back to my post, lol.

[SageInfinite]

Quote: Originally Posted by ODogg

Oh I'm sorry, I thought I stepped into the thread talking about Madden 17 and the cover athlete, not an analysis of Madden 16s offensive line blocking. #ridiculous

[Dwaresacksqb]

Quote: Originally Posted by Gridiron

I'm not sure I follow, because AFAIK, AI is what tells the animated model what to do. Without it, how would the model choose where to go or what to do? Just sounds like a shortcoming of both things. Not having animations to address situations, and AI issues having players do things they shouldn't do.

It's a core mechanic though. If the lineman aren't physically allowed to do something. That's not a A.I. issue. If a Receiver wasn't allowed to do a toe drag along the sidelines to make a catch, would you call the A.I. dumb? No, because it was never built into the game. Now if you see a toe drag once in every 10 games or so and you are unhappy with the amount you are seeing, that would be an A.I. issue. That's how I see it anyway.

[Gridiron]

Quote: Originally Posted by Dwaresacksqb

It's a core mechanic though. If the lineman aren't physically a looked to do something. That's not a A.I. issue. If a Receiver wasn't allowed to do a toe drag along the sidelines to make a catch, would you call the A.I. dumb? No, because it was never built into the game. Now if you see a toe drag once in every 10 games or so and you are unhappy with the amount you are seeing, that would be an A.I. issue. That's how I see it anyway.

I get what you're saying. I'm just saying, that probably wasn't a good way to develop it. It's like, yeah, you build a house but it's on quicksand.

[SolidSquid]

Quote: Originally Posted by Gridiron

I get what you're saying. I'm just saying, that probably wasn't a good way to develop it. It's like, yeah, you build a house but it's on quicksand.

And that's exactly where we are in reguard to a lot of things in madden. The game was built on broken foundation and there's no way to fix it besides tearing it down and starting from scratch but there's too much risk involved to actually do it

[ODogg]

Quote: Originally Posted by SolidSquid

And that's exactly where we are in reguard to a lot of things in madden. The game was built on broken foundation and there's no way to fix it besides tearing it down and starting from scratch but there's too much risk involved to actually do it

You guys are right, Madden is broken and can never be fixed. You should go check out other forums now. I'd recommend the Other non-sports game forum :P

[Dwaresacksqb]

Anyway, a little more back on topic. I guess I'll be keeping my eyes peeled during the trailer for any improvements in the line play. Hopefully we see an o'lineman turn completely around to give chase to the man who got through.

[SageInfinite]

I'm just glad we don't have to go through that long and drawn out cover vote. Also glad that we'll be getting a trailer with the reveal.

I hope it's more of a sizzle real than a teaser trailer just showing off the cover boy. Atleast giving us a hint to what the gameplay focus could be this year. We'll see though. It'd be nice to get the attention all over the field instead of just one specific feature.