Madden NFL 17 Releases on August 23, Cover Athlete & Gameplay Trailer on May 12

[rkwittem]

I'd feel better if 2K was doing this, but if they aren't, as it currently stands, I am just hoping that there is real adaptive AI that eliminates players from running the same nonsense over and over without the CPU making adjustments, a massively weakened aggressive catch, and bringing back old school formations.

I enjoy new-look NFL offense as they offer a million different ways to attack a defense, but I found myself missing the ability to go back and try some of the old Bill Walsh split back formations with all of their motions.

[SageInfinite]

Quote: Originally Posted by jpdavis82

I feel like in the past they have been more confident in their vision and direction whereas with 17 they seem more confident in the game itself. I have high expectations for 17 and I have since last year and like I said last year, I think 17 will be for CFM what 16 was for gameplay.

Why wouldn't they be confident? They're competing against themselves.....

[Hooe]

Quote: Originally Posted by SageInfinite

They're always confident. Means absolutely nothing coming from Tiburon.....

Based on the series recent track record of steady and consistent upward progress to the point where the current game stands on its own as a quality title, I vehemently beg to differ.

Anecdotally, I observe that the tenor of conversation in this forum - consistently one of the most critical eyes on the internet for the Madden NFL series - is more positive than it has been in literally years.

Quote: Originally Posted by SageInfinite

They're competing against themselves.....

The sooner this tired white lie stops, the better off we'll all be for it.

I personally enjoy Madden as much as anyone in this forum; if Madden NFL has no competition for my attention, then I'd have 250 fewer hours logged playing Cities: Skylines, I wouldn't own Mortal Kombat X, and I wouldn't have No Man's Sky and DOOM pre-ordered. There are plenty of other good games to play, and those games are Tiburon's present-day competition.

[NateDogPack12]

You make a valid point about other games. I'll just note that a lot of people don't have time for that level of gaming. They choose a few sports titles every year, and they choose among competitors in the sports genre.

It's not a "white lie" to suggest EA has stepped off the gas since achieving exclusivity in the NFL arena. In fact, that view is a commonplace argument backed up by a lot of solid evidence - both empirical and circumstantial in nature. Across the whole panoply of sports gaming, there are features, concepts and variations executed far more solidly than in Madden. You can see that competition has really driven a lot of titles forward. It's fair to criticize EA for not being innovative, and for dropping the ball on the current generation transfer wherein we lost so many admirable features. We shouldn't be looking back to a decade ago when a conversation is held about the glory days of Madden.

So many of the concerns people have about Madden can arguably be attributed to their exclusivity agreement, so I don't think anyone's lying when they make the argument.

[drugsbunny]

I wonder which new glowing feature they are going to focus on this year. Which feature that was probably in Madden 2000 something that are going to bring back and advertise it as new and innovative. With that being said, I would love to see the ability to create my own team and build my own stadium. I should be able to move my team to any location and give them the name of any of the teams. I loved the Black Knights but had no interest in moving my team to London. The Brooklyn Black Knights would have been awesome. I forget which madden it was, but I loved running the ball and when you pulled back on the analog juke, they did a high step not a back stop cut. That was cool. I miss emotions after a big hit. You cream someone and they stayed down for a bit, even got a little woosie... I miss that. After the whistle hits that drew penalties like in the 90's was cool. Last years Madden was pretty good, I just wish we could have some of the fun back. The NFL needs to stop with this attempt at a squeaky clean image and take I back to the days of brutality, cocaine, and lying about concussions- you know, the things that made the NFL great.!

[roadman]

Just like the OL/DL discussion yesterday in this thread, the current license discussion is normally taboo in this forum and especially when the thread goes off topic.

As Kehlis stated yesterday about the OL/DL discussion, the license topic has been down quite a beaten horse path in OS history and the thread should keep going down the avenue of cover athlete and game trailer. A bit more than 24 hours and we will know some things in 17.

I hope Rodgers is not on the cover and he had a mediocre year last season.

[howboutdat]

Quote: Originally Posted by jpdavis82

I feel like in the past they have been more confident in their vision and direction whereas with 17 they seem more confident in the game itself. I have high expectations for 17 and I have since last year and like I said last year, I think 17 will be for CFM what 16 was for gameplay.

I really hope your right JP.But again, after saying last year they put more into CFM than ever... didnt add much to it and it came out a hot broken mess, so much so the head of CFM had to suggest to us not to start our leagues for a while.

One thing i hate most is seeing some weird stuff added no one is asking for while leaving out things the community is asking for. Because when i see it, i think, you tell me you have this short dev time, why are you wasting on things people who are buying your game are not asking for but not putting in more of what we are asking for. I get the short time to make something new.I dont get spending that valuable time on things we dont want.

Take that "waiting list" for example,they claimed they added that around may of last year after they heard the community really wanted a draft board. Now , knowing we want a customizable draft board, and saying they heard us, this year if im going to look at what they did and say its a success, they need to finish what they started there. The watch list is not enough.They have the foundation in a short time, this year it should come to full fruition. Those are the type of things i look at. I dont start a project and just let it go half done and not finish it.I expect the same from others.

[MajorSupreme]

Quote: Originally Posted by CM Hooe

The sooner this tired white lie stops, the better off we'll all be for it. I personally enjoy Madden as much as anyone in this forum; if Madden NFL has no competition for my attention, then I'd have 250 fewer hours logged playing Cities: Skylines, I wouldn't own Mortal Kombat X, and I wouldn't have No Man's Sky and DOOM pre-ordered. There are plenty of other good games to play, and those games are Tiburon's present-day competition.

Ehhhhh, a white lie? Sure, Madden competes with every other game in the market, fine. But when you are talking about a sports game, and unless I'm beyond mistaken, many (probably the majority) Madden buyers go to buy the game because they want to play football, not necessarily the based on the current game market. But when talking specifically about American football, they are competing against themselves.
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