MLB The Show 16 Player Ratings - Top Players at Each Position

[tessl]

Quote: Originally Posted by Cavicchi

Wild pitches are not just pitches in the dirt. You need a breakdown of the type of wild pitch for that data to be significant. Without knowing what type and if it was reasonably possible to be caught or blocked, I consider it lacking pertinent information. I want facts, not assumptions.

Why would a catcher block a ball which isn't in the dirt?

[Cavicchi]

Quote: Originally Posted by tessl

Why would a catcher block a ball which isn't in the dirt?

Do you think that Wild Pitch data you use from fangraphs only states blocked balls in the dirt? You don't believe that data also includes 0ther types of wild pitches?

See my post above yours.

[Cavicchi]

Quote: Originally Posted by p00p1

You're the one who presented the argument, it should be on you to prove it with more than GGs. Google it, RPP = Catcher Blocked Pitches in runs above average, excluding 2015 which isn't calculated: Posey 9.1 Perez 3.5. Maybe if Perez played in the NL he wouldn't have so many fancy awards.

See my post below yours.

[Cavicchi]

Sorry for the consecutive posts, but just have to post this for all to see from that link http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/201...s-molina-perez

"As illustrated in the AL blocking leaders graphic, Perez had an MLB-best blocking percentage on expected passed balls, but his RPP ranks 10th amongst MLB 600+ inning catchers; plus, despite facing 14 more expected passed ball pitches than the RPP league leader Molina, he allowed the same number. For a little known fact drawn from the Molina/Perez comparison, note that this past season Perez not only had 147 more blocks, a block per game more than Molina, but further, Perez posted more blocks and blocks/9 than Molina has amassed in any of his six consecutive Gold Glove seasons. Brief conclusion: be wary of Perez's "low" (still 4th in the AL) RPP — he is a premier, if not the premier pitch blocking catcher in the game today, although his numbers may potentially be inflated by more opportunities."

[Speedy]

Y'awl are arguing about wild pitches.

[Cavicchi]

Quote: Originally Posted by Speedy

Y'awl are arguing about wild pitches.

Relative to pitch blocking, I am not interested in wild pitch data anymore

[JTommy67]

Quote: Originally Posted by tessl

Could you give an example of multiple players at the same position whose defensive ratings you think are incorrect relative to each other?

Well one that had me perplexed is DJ LeMahieu's arm accuracy rating of 37. Calculating a throwing error percentage using just about any denominator (assists, balls fielded, total chances, etc...) he not only was tops in the majors, but came in first or second out of all second basemen since 1988, which is the first year I believe that throwing error data is complete for all teams.

Even if you credit first basemen for saving a lot of bad throws, it's hard to see why he is just a 37. Granted, I don't know much about him, but this is an example of what I'm talking about. They rated him a 37 the first year (three years ago), and then never changed it - it's been the same every year since despite making so few throwing errors.

In general, I didn't compare individual players. I just happened to notice stuff like this once in awhile.

[Sip_16]

I still can't get over someone actually believea Ellsbury is a top 3 CF.