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[Denzel Washington]

Quote: Originally Posted by TattooedEvil

ok I love Lindor and think he'll be better then Tulo but chill....Lindor has been in the league 5 minutes.

That's 100% irrelevant. Defense does not season or get better because you have been in the league for a long time. I'm not even asserting that Lindor is a better baseball player than tulowitzki or ever will be but 2016 Lindor is without a doubt a better defender than 2016 tulowitzki

[TattooedEvil]

Quote: Originally Posted by Denzel Washington

That's 100% irrelevant. Defense does not season or get better because you have been in the league for a long time. I'm not even asserting that Lindor is a better baseball player than tulowitzki or ever will be but 2016 Lindor is without a doubt a better defender than 2016 tulowitzki

lmao very relevant. Defense can def season and get better cuz a players been in the league (as long as u work) for awhile. Crawford has gotten better year by year. The more into a players prime that player gets he works on his first step quickness and how to take better routes to the ball, how to get rid of it quicker, better footwork turning two, etc....You just dont have your skills when you get into the league and thats it. I am not defending Tulo one bit cuz I cant stand how he gets put on a pedastool for playing 100 games a year after breaking a nail, but one thing you hear from the older infielders (and by watching) is that Tulo and Crawford make a lot of very tough plays look very routine while some SSs make them look amazing.

[Ghost Of The Year]

Quote: Originally Posted by Denzel Washington

....but 2015 Lindor was without a doubt a better defender than 2015 tulowitzki.

Fixxed.
When 2016 games get under way we'll most likley see more of the same, but I prefer not to assume unless forced to. lol

[Denzel Washington]

Quote: Originally Posted by TattooedEvil

lmao very relevant. Defense can def season and get better cuz a players been in the league (as long as u work) for awhile. Crawford has gotten better year by year. The more into a players prime that player gets he works on his first step quickness and how to take better routes to the ball, how to get rid of it quicker, better footwork turning two, etc....You just dont have your skills when you get into the league and thats it. I am not defending Tulo one bit cuz I cant stand how he gets put on a pedastool for playing 100 games a year after breaking a nail, but one thing you hear from the older infielders (and by watching) is that Tulo and Crawford make a lot of very tough plays look very routine while some SSs make them look amazing.

http://www.fangraphs.com/library/pri...s/aging-curve/

What aspect of lindor's defense would improve with age? Instincts are hardwired and young players are at their peak from a physical standpoint. Defense hardly ever improves. The few instances I can think of are from some tweaks to footwork but usually they aren't drastic changes and they are few and far between.

Regardless this is all pointless as lindor is better than tulowitzki defensively ATM. If you knew about lindor you knew that his glove has been ready in the minors for a few seasons and they were just letting his bat Get to the major league level.
Again, this isn't controversial once you look at the facts

[Denzel Washington]

Quote: Originally Posted by Ghost Of The Year

Fixxed. When 2016 games get under way we'll most likley see more of the same, but I prefer not to assume unless forced to. lol

It's a pretty safe assumption. Defense is much more constant then offense season to season.

[WaitTilNextYear]

Quote: Originally Posted by Denzel Washington

It's a pretty safe assumption. Defense is much more constant then offense season to season.

Defense isn't one thing though. Tulo is better at some things. Lindor is better at some other things.

[Denzel Washington]

Quote: Originally Posted by WaitTilNextYear

Defense isn't one thing though. Tulo is better at some things. Lindor is better at some other things.

I'm aware

Not that I can think of.