NBA 2K16 Player Ratings & Screenshots - Day Four: Kobe, Wall, Ross & More

[Sundown]

Quote: Originally Posted by LD2k

No one here, internally and externally, is a bigger Kobe fan than I am... but I agree with 85 - coming off an injury last year & based on how the ratings have been constructed for NBA 2K16. Also not that worried because the Black Mamba will rise that # up this season.

This doesn't make much sense. Injuries should depress ratings until the player gets in game shape, not give "benefit of the doubt" rating bonuses. We all knew Rose wasn't an 88 last season and he never came close to it. And Kobe isn't an 85 and hasn't played like one for any stretch in two seasons.


He's an 80-81 based on an objective analysis of his actual performance last year. And that's kind of being generous. There are very few players that one could conscionably give an 80 rating to with his statistical performance. If you gave every one of his shots to Jeremy Lin or Nick Young, they could likely have equaled his scoring production and efficiency. I mean 37%. Really?

Quote: Originally Posted by lakers24

In those final games he shot 37.7% from 3, 39.1% from 2 (in 6 of the 8 games he shot above 40%), averaged 14.6ppg, 7.6rpg, 8.1apg, and posted a TS% of 49.1% (season average was 47.7%).

49% TS is ABYSMAL (and only on low volume 14.6 ppg). That is several points below league average. Everyone's favorite high volume chucker in Westbrook still shoots 52% (which is around league average). 49% TS means terrible shot taking and/or that some of those shots should be distributed to pretty much any other NBA servicable average-efficiency player.


To get an idea of how TERRIBLE 49% TS is, which is during Kobe's "good games", let's look at GSW's roster. To find someone who shoots around 49.1% TS, I have to go all the way down to Justin Holliday, the Warriors' 13th man, who still beats Kobe with a 49.8%.


Now if we look a little further, there is Brandon Rush at .204. But his career is likely over. That's it. There is no one else that shoots as poorly as Kobe on that roster.


That doesn't scream 85 to me.

[JODYE]

Quote: Originally Posted by 24ct

Yeah like if LeBron is a 94 & peak Jordan is 99 then what is a prime Lakers Kobe rating? What will Heat LeBron be rated? What about Larry Bird? Offensively good. Great shooter. Good team defender but not so good 1 on 1. What is Magic's rating? Great all around PG. Scoring threat but would rather pass. What's Scottie Pippen if LeBron is a 94 & Kobe old is an 85? I'm curious. Is 2k saying LeBron's production dropped? Then what is Kevin Love's rating? Kobe definitely isn't an 85 in today's NBA. If he's an 85 what is Paul Pierce? He actually finished a season & made Washington a playoff contender. Would have been in the EC finals if Wall doesn't break his hand. If he's lower than Kobe I gotta say there's some in house love for him. What is Westbrook & Harden if Kobe is an 85? Strong 90 at least but KD is a 91...Westbrook's season stats were better than Harden's, Durant (best healthy season) & Curry's last year lol... If they're going by HOF/advanced stats LeBrons FG% is one of the highest inside the paint for a guy who basically is a point guard in a forwards body. How did he drop that much in rating vs Kobe who didn't move at all. Numerical ratings don't matter that much to me but there seems to be no consistency. So I'm questioning where these numbers come from?

You didn't watch Larry Bird.

[Sundown]

Quote: Originally Posted by ojandpizza

LeBron dropped off somewhat with his extremely high shooting efficiencies.. But man after the finals I can't imagine a 94 being fair. Curious to what TT's rebounding ratings are. LeBron out-rebounded him (and everyone else in the finals) even with Thompson being much closer to the basket more often that Bron, but I'm sure his rebounding ratings are slightly too low again like they always are. Interesting what his guard capabilities are as well. Averaged more assists than anyone in the finals as well with his top 2 scorers OUT, and JR shooting about as well as Shaq does. Also less turnovers than Curry despite his ridiculous usage rate and playing against the top defense in the league. I'm just not sure man. He was putting up stats like guys from the damn 60's in today's league, and against the best defense in the league, and drops to a 94 because his shooting percentages was a littler lower? So are we going to lower MJ for the year he played Seattle and his shooting/turnovers were ridiculous?

Lebron's shooting percentages weren't just "a little lower". They were just straight up bad. 40% is terrible efficiency. And him being contained by Iguodala was what netted him the Finals MVP. After his playoff performance, I can't NOT give him a 94-95 or lower. It's still very, very good and a dominant rating on an all-time scale. But it was clearly not peak Lebron (who is probably a 96-98 on a GOAT scale).

[Vni]

Quote: Originally Posted by scottyp180

Always love seeing how people react to the ovr. Things like Kobe should be around 82 instead of 85. We don't even have his full ratings to know where he is overrated. 2k, much like us, have no idea how Kobe will perform this season and it seems like they are given him a bit of the benefit of the doubt. Last year they were very consistent on roster updates and weren't afraid to increase or decrease a player's attributes where they saw fit. Wouldn't be surprised to see Kobe, or anyone elses, ovr adjusted within the first couple weeks of the season. If you can't wait that long you can always adjust the ratings yourself.

Way too much common sense for an overall rating thread man.

[jfsolo]

Quote: Originally Posted by JODYE

You didn't watch Larry Bird.

He means on the defensive end, which is totally correct. Offensively of course he was lethal one on one.

[stillfeelme]

They straight gave Kobe a 2-3 year pass. He had one of the worst shot selections I can recall last season.

The only rating I can see Kobe still being rated high was in his turnaround fades. He should have bad on ball defense and any other athletic ratings. Then you add on his injury ratings man lol.

When you are 37 there is a huge difference than being 34 ask any athlete. I mean he is coming back from an injury that is known to completely change your game if not end it on the wrong side of the end of his career. He was noticeable slower last season than 2 seasons ago and also limited offensively. Some ratings should not be given a 2 year pass though

I want the bad shot selection Kobe with the 37% jump shooter and defensively limited

[Sundown]

Quote: Originally Posted by stillfeelme

They straight gave Kobe a 2-3 year pass. He had one of the worst shot selections I can recall last season. The only rating I can see Kobe still being rated high was in his turnaround fades. He should have bad on ball defense and any other athletic ratings. Then you add on his injury ratings man lol. When you are 37 there is a huge difference than being 34 ask any athlete. I mean he is coming back from an injury that is known to completely change your game if not end it on the wrong side of the end of his career. He was noticeable slower last season than 2 seasons ago and also limited offensively. Some ratings should not be given a 2 year pass though I want the bad shot selection Kobe with the 37% jump shooter and defensively limited

I'm not even sure he should still be rated high on fades-- if anything, the efficiency of those is what I saw drop drastically.


Basically Kobe's "good" games last season has him producing at Tony Wroten Levels. Wroten did not get an 85 for his efforts.

[magicman32]

Kobe was absolutely terrible last season chucking to pass Michael Jordan in scoring. It was bad. And his defense was terrible.

I know his averages last season looked decent as far as PPG, APG, RPG. But if you watched the games, he shot the Lakers out of several potential wins. HE WAS TERRIBLE!!!!

Over the last 3 years, his last 3 injuries has been NON-CONTACT injuries that have kept him out the rest of the season. Hopefully he can bounce back, but he needs to take a step back and let the young talent develop. FOR REAL!!!!