An In-Depth Look at the Changes to the NBA 2K16 Ratings System

[bamalam]

Quote: Originally Posted by ojandpizza

Rodman did the same. He almost always gave up 2-4 inches when he was moved to a power forward and would be credited rebounds when he tapped the ball up away so he could secure it on the second jump. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

just opinion - eye test -I take rodman hands down.
moses threw up some ugly "shots' by the hundreds where he was in position to get his own rebounds.


nice to know we will have roster options and editing as always to rate as we each want.

[ReyTV]

Yooo what ya talking about? [emoji102]


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[Real2KInsider]

Quote: Originally Posted by SaruAqua

This. Lol at comparing the east in Jordan's day to now.

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Or the fact that the '91-'93/'96-'98 Bulls had to beat five 57+ win teams ('92 Cavs, '93 Knicks, '96 Magic, '97 Heat, '98 Pacers) just to get to the Finals? And I mean BEAT them, not just face them.

This is a funny comment to make considering only one of those teams (93 Knicks) had a better record than the Bulls. The 96 Bulls were 12-games better than the 96 Magic, LOL that pretty much meets your criteria for "just facing them".

WEST 50+ Win Teams
1991: Blazers (63), Lakers (58), Spurs (55), Suns (55), Jazz (54), Rockets (52)
1992: Blazers (57), Jazz (55), Warriors (55), Suns (53)
1993: Suns (62), Rockets (55), Sonics (55), Blazers (51)
1994: Sonics (63), Rockets (58), Suns (56), Spurs (55), Jazz (53), Warriors (50)
1995: Spurs (62), Jazz (60), Suns (59), Spurs (57)
1996: Sonics (64), Spurs (59), Jazz (55), Lakers (53)
1997: Jazz (64), Sonics (57), Rockets (57), Lakers (56)
1998: Jazz (62), Sonics (61), Lakers (61), Suns (56), Spurs (56)

EAST 50+ Win Teams
1991: Bulls (61), Celtics (56), Pistons (50)
1992: Bulls (67), Cavaliers (57), Celtics (51), Knicks (51)
1993: Knicks (60), Bulls (57), Cavaliers (54)
1994: Hawks (57), Knicks (57), Bulls (55), Magic (50)
1995: Magic (57), Knicks (55), Pacers (52), Hornets (50)
1996: Bulls (72), Magic (60), Pacers (52)
1997: Bulls (69), Heat (61), Knicks (57), Hawks (56), Pistons (54), Hornets (54)
1998: Bulls (62), Pacers (58), Heat (55), Hornets (51), Hawks (50)

There is no question which conference was tougher in the 90s. If we elevate the criteria to 55+ wins it gets laughable. Aside from 1997 the west was better every single time.

The Bulls beat one GOOD team in the east each year but not GREAT teams. There's a reason why a different west team made it to the Finals each year while the Bulls were never seriously challenged out east.

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But to blatantly ignore how easy the road to the Finals from the East is and kiss LBJ's feet for shooting 40%FG vs the Bulls and Hawks is ignorance. His 3 previous runs were greater because of his greater play (efficiency), particularly '11 when the Heat beat the 56 win Celtics and 62 win Bulls.

The Cavs (53 wins) swept a 60-win team. With Kevin Love sidelined and Kyrie Irving hobbled/missing games. Compare that to any road Jordan took to the Finals in the 90s and you'll see which way the ignorance flows.

Nostalgia is a funny thing.

[Trackball]

Quote: Originally Posted by Rashidi

The Bulls beat one GOOD team in the east each year but not GREAT teams. There's a reason why a different west team made it to the Finals each year while the Bulls were never seriously challenged out east.

So what does that make the 1995 Rockets?

To get to the Finals, they had to beat the three teams with the three best records in the league: Jazz had 60 wins, Suns had 59, Spurs had 62. Then they swept the Magic, who had 57.

The Rockets were seeded sixth. Lowest-seeded champion in league history.

Yet even to this day, people say "So what? No Jordan." Uh, who did the Magic beat in the second round?

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I apologize. It's just, seeing them win it on live TV back then, two years in a row, was some of the happiest memories of my childhood. Hearing those champion Rockets teams get so disrespected today (and even AT THE TIME) just...grinds my gears, to coin a phrase.

[thedream2k16]

There real test to this new logic is kobe bryant. He hasn't shot a high % from the field or played much in the last 2 seasons due to injuries. With him being the OLD kobe , will he play like his NBA stats suggest? or will be be the kobe from 8 years ago?

37% from field 29% from 3

[Trackball]

Quote: Originally Posted by thedream2k16

There real test to this new logic is kobe bryant. He hasn't shot a high % from the field or played much in the last 2 seasons due to injuries. With him being the OLD kobe , will he play like his NBA stats suggest? or will be be the kobe from 8 years ago? 37% from field 29% from 3

One of the things I do love about 2K, especially MyCareer, is that it punishes you for playing like Kobe has lately.

The Teammate Grade is a wonderful thing.

I remember playing 2K11, my first 2K in years, and once getting an F in a draft combine game! Then I got quite the lecture from the 2K Insider as the main screen turn on--I mean, as the game ended and the MyPlayer hub loaded back up.

I've learned my lesson since then, of course.

[Sundown]

Quote: Originally Posted by Trackball

One of the things I do love about 2K, especially MyCareer, is that it punishes you for playing like Kobe has lately. The Teammate Grade is a wonderful thing. I remember playing 2K11, my first 2K in years, and once getting an F in a draft combine game! Then I got quite the lecture from the 2K Insider as the main screen turn on--I mean, as the game ended and the MyPlayer hub loaded back up. I've learned my lesson since then, of course.

Mike mentioned team chemistry is more important this year. I really hope it means it's what I've wanted for some time-- good shot distribution and expected touches needed to keep teammates involved and humming in a game in all modes, and players who are frozen out being cold and upset. And I want this in ALL games and modes.

This would affect everything holistically for the better, from better game to game simulation, to more realistic MyCareer, to a more realistic approach to team building in association-- to even MyTeam, so you can't just build a team full of superstars. I want to see attempting that being a challenging endeavor itself, just like it is in real life.

Holy nuts. 37% and sub 30 from three. I'd give Kobe a 78 just to be generous.

[stillfeelme]

I was just thinking about these ratings and dunking. How do they justify who is the 99 dunker?

Wilkins
Jordan
Vince
Dr. J

Good luck Beds lol.

I guess I will start who I think will be the 99's in some of these things

Post offense: Hakeem
Post Control: Hakeem


Steals: Tony Allen 2014-15 His steal % is just absurd he might get dinged because they usually base some of these ratings off of more than one year. Without knowing all the classic teams it should be him

On ball defense: Dennis Rodman early career Detroit years. His footwork and recovery was just special just a true pest. A chance this is an early Jordan both won DPOY

Hustle: Dennis Rodman

Post Fade: Jordan Signature move

Moving 3pt: Steph Curry

Passing: Magic. I know Stockon might have had some better years with the assist but Magic is the best passer to me flashy and non flashy.

Blocking: Early Mutumbo if one of those Denver teams are in.