Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

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[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by BMDinTDOT

No I'm not glossing over that he said "I'm a racist" I've addressed it 2 or 3 times now. You're the one not acknowledging the possibility of Hogan saying it from raw emotion and just talking straight $hit to somebody. Unless you're some strict Bible thumper or high level church boy you personally or someone you know has gone on a hateful tirade on either people from another race, religion, women, gays, friends, family members, teammates if you play sports etc. etc. and they didn't mean it. The truth is some people actually mean those things when they say it and some people don't. Somebody brought up Donald Sterling... Difference between Sterling and Hogan is EVERYBODY knew Sterling was racist for years before that incident. Dude has a long history of incidents that are well documented before what happened last year. And you didn't hear one person defend Sterling

I dont know about the people you hang out with but I havent and im not a bible thumper or church boy. They have either meant it or were clearly joking. I have a close family member who is a clear anti-semite and homophobe. Now she use the bible to justify her prejudices but she clearly means it.

The people I know dont just randomly hurl racist slurs just because they are upset. For example if they are upset about an asian person, they dont go to using racial slurs to express their anger or insult the person. There are so many ways to express your anger without going racial and usually when a person goes there, there is an underlying racist reason.

Also people did defend Sterling.

Floyd Mayweather:

http://www.sportsworldnews.com/artic...-him-video.htm

Comedian Paul Mooney:

http://blackamericaweb.com/2014/05/2...nald-sterling/

Gene Simmons of KISS also defended him.

[BMDinTDOT]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

I dont know about the people you hang out with but I havent and im not a bible thumper or church boy. They have either meant it or were clearly joking. I have a close family member who is a clear anti-semite and homophobe. Now she use the bible to justify her prejudices but she clearly means it. The people I know dont just randomly hurl racist slurs just because they are upset. For example if they are upset about an asian person, they dont go to using racial slurs to express their anger or insult the person. There are so many ways to express your anger without going racial and usually when a person goes there, there is an underlying racist reason. Also people did defend Sterling. Floyd Mayweather: http://www.sportsworldnews.com/artic...-him-video.htm Comedian Paul Mooney: http://blackamericaweb.com/2014/05/2...nald-sterling/ Gene Simmons of KISS also defended him.

If you go back in time to 9/11 almost 14 years ago and secretly
recorded many Americans conversations in there homes TONS of
people were bashing Muslims and acting like every middle eastern
person is a terrorist...

Fast forward 14 years later some will still feel the exact same way,
some will have completely changed their tunes and some will be
indifferent.

Not only do people say or do things in the heat of the moment that
they don't mean there are some that do mean it and eventually change.

There are criminals in jail who can rehab themselves learn from their
mistakes and become well functioning members of society.

We can debate this all day but when it comes to Hulk Hogan many
people will see him as a racist now and hate him forever and many
people will think he was talking smack at the time and he's truly not
a racist.

[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by BMDinTDOT

If you go back in time to 9/11 almost 14 years ago and secretly recorded many Americans conversations in there homes TONS of people were bashing Muslims and acting like every middle eastern person is a terrorist... Fast forward 14 years later some will still feel the exact same way, some will have completely changed their tunes and some will be indifferent. Not only do people say or do things in the heat of the moment that they don't mean there are some that do mean it and eventually change. There are criminals in jail who can rehab themselves learn from their mistakes and become well functioning members of society. We can debate this all day but when it comes to Hulk Hogan many people will see him as a racist now and hate him forever and many people will think he was talking smack at the time and he's truly not a racist.

...and those people are racists or prejudiced against Muslims.

Maybe I'm different. I dont tolerate or excuse simple minded people. If at any time you feel the need to use racial slurs about a minority and its not a joke, I believe those are your true feelings about that race.

I've been angry at hispanics and I've never called any hispanic a wetback. I've been angry at asians and I've never called one a chink or slant eye. The reason why is because race has nothing to do with why im angry.

Lets go back to Hogan. If you look past the racial slurs, what it came down to was that Hogan was upset that his daughter was working with a rich guy to produce her album. He felt betrayed because he spent millions on her album and she wasnt working with him anymore. So lets say Hogan isnt really a racist....why is he calling the guy a ******? Why is he admitting to be a racist? Why is he ignorantly claiming that everyone is a little racist? Why does he feel its OK for his daughter to date a ****** as long as he's a tall basketball player?

If he's not angry about the person being black and doesnt carry feelings that blacks are inferior....why is race even coming up?

Finally, regarding all those black stars that are supporting him, thats not surprising. During the video, he made it clear that he was OK with rich black people. They are OK with him. So the fact that he considers Shaq a friend isnt surprising either...Shaq is rich so are most of the other people supporting Hogan.

There are tons of people who will do business with black people but would never invite them into their homes. There are plenty of people who are friendly and cordial with black people who would object to a black person marrying their daughter. Just because you have black "friends" doesnt mean you cant have prejudiced/racist opinions about blacks.

[BMDinTDOT]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

...and those people are racists or prejudiced against Muslims. Maybe I'm different. I dont tolerate or excuse simple minded people. If at any time you feel the need to use racial slurs about a minority and its not a joke, I believe those are your true feelings about that race. I've been angry at hispanics and I've never called any hispanic a wetback. I've been angry at asians and I've never called one a chink or slant eye. The reason why is because race has nothing to do with why im angry. Lets go back to Hogan. If you look past the racial slurs, what it came down to was that Hogan was upset that his daughter was working with a rich guy to produce her album. He felt betrayed because he spent millions on her album and she wasnt working with him anymore. So lets say Hogan isnt really a racist....why is he calling the guy a ******? Why is he admitting to be a racist? Why is he ignorantly claiming that everyone is a little racist? Why does he feel its OK for his daughter to date a ****** as long as he's a tall basketball player? If he's not angry about the person being black and doesnt carry feelings that blacks are inferior....why is race even coming up? Finally, regarding all those black stars that are supporting him, thats not surprising. During the video, he made it clear that he was OK with rich black people. They are OK with him. So the fact that he considers Shaq a friend isnt surprising either...Shaq is rich so are most of the other people supporting Hogan. There are tons of people who will do business with black people but would never invite them into their homes. There are plenty of people who are friendly and cordial with black people who would object to a black person marrying their daughter. Just because you have black "friends" doesnt mean you cant have prejudiced/racist opinions about blacks.

The fact that Hogan ended up his tirade saying he was cool with his
daughter dating a black guy if he was tall and a rich basketball player
is just another sign that he was just talking nonsensical smack. Do
you not know Hulk Hogan by now? He has a reputation of being a
liar and a exaggerator. Ask him what his favorite match or memory
is and he well tell you 5 different answers. He is notorious for saying
things without thinking about them first. Also it hasn't even been mentioned
if he was possibly intoxicated or stoned before he was with Heather Clem
it was 8 years ago so who knows.

You can dismiss Rodman, Kamala, Virgil, Foreman, Arsenio, Shaq etc
for sticking up for him all you want but there is tons of black people
that aren't rich that are regular people that are sticking up for him as
well despite what he said on the internet and im not talking about the
people trolling him on twitter with the soccer pictures. My best friend is
black and he thinks its a joke how the media is trying to destroy him.

Have you seen the "Finding Hulk Hogan" Documentary? You can find
it on Youtube it documents his life at the time when those comments
were made.

- After 30 years his in ring wrestling career is over full time
- His back is in so much pain he needs multiple surgeries
- He can barely walk and is on a ton of antibiotics
- Lets Nick and his friend take the car out for a spin and the tragedy happens
- He takes the heat and gets sued because hes Nicks legal guardian
- His wife turns heel leaves him for an 18 year old and divorces him
- Linda raids him in the divorce and takes about 80%
- He tries his best to help his talentless daughter get a music career
- His daughter botches it up and only got anywhere because of his name
- One of his best friends convinces him to sleep with his wife
- He secretly tapes it and tries to profit from it

Hogan admits he was close to suicide but a call from Muhammed Ali's
daughter (obviously a black woman) saved his life.

They ended up talking and meeting and working together on American
Gladiators Hogan met his new wife got a job with TNA and WWE and
had successfully rehabbed his life to where he was happy again and
working in the industry he loved.

Having your life and legacy fall apart and have some of your own
family turn on you and become suicidal is a little different mindset
then you having a bad day with Hispanics and Asians.

I'd love to see anyone go through the stuff Hogan did during that time
period and be some politically correct angels in a private conversation
with someone.

Ya let's destroy a 62 year old person who has ONE incident in their
entire life over a 30 second rambling tirade when their life was in
shambles nearly a decade ago.

Does it excuse what he said? no

But I can't believe you won't even fathom the possibility of him or
anybody saying something in the heat of the moment on raw emotion
that they didn't mean.

[aholbert32]

He said he was OK with his daughter dating a 7 foot basketball playing ******. He couldve said black guy. He couldve said black dude. He chose to use a racial slur instead.

Just because a number of former athletes, two wrestlers who benefited from Hogan's celebrity and your black best friend think he isnt racist doesnt mean he isnt. You tried to use Sterling as an example of someone who the wold universally thinks is racist and I gave you two examples of black celebrities who defended him and dont think he's racist.

Also, what is your point in listing all the bad things that happened to him? So if I lose my job, my wife leaves me and my kid disowns me that makes me more likely to use racial slurs? I'm gonna start calling Jews "kikes" because I'm having a rough time in my life? Really?

Ive had some ROUGH times in my life and never started using racial slurs. If that happens to you or ur friends when you guys have rough times, you have some deep seeded issues.

[BMDinTDOT]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

He said he was OK with his daughter dating a 7 foot basketball playing ******. He couldve said black guy. He couldve said black dude. He chose to use a racial slur instead. Just because a number of former athletes, two wrestlers who benefited from Hogan's celebrity and your black best friend think he isnt racist doesnt mean he isnt. You tried to use Sterling as an example of someone who the wold universally thinks is racist and I gave you two examples of black celebrities who defended him and dont think he's racist. Also, what is your point in listing all the bad things that happened to him? So if I lose my job, my wife leaves me and my kid disowns me that makes me more likely to use racial slurs? I'm gonna start calling Jews "kikes" because I'm having a rough time in my life? Really? Ive had some ROUGH times in my life and never started using racial slurs. If that happens to you or ur friends when you guys have rough times, you have some deep seeded issues.

Ya and just because you think he truly meant the things he said
doesn't mean that he really is racist.

This debate is completely subjective and what makes it interesting
is you can have a white guy say hes a racist and I'm done with him
and a black guy say I believe his apology and I don't believe he's truly
racist.

My comment on Donald Sterling was a figure of speech you cited
2 or 3 people that supported Sterling there is tons of wrestlers and
celebrities supporting Hogan as well as a high number of people on
social media and online wrestling sites. Did anybody support Sterling
online or on social media? and why is that? because Sterling had a long
history of racial remarks and incidents. Comparing the two is apple and
oranges.

And congratulations to you for being a perfect little saint who can
hold his anger in at all times I wish I knew you instead of the people
I've met from all circles of life. One day you will finally snap it might
not be a racial, homophobic or sexiest but you will snap in the heat of the
moment and you will be like almost every other human that has made
this mistake.

[Hassan Darkside]

Quote: Originally Posted by BMDinTDOT

Ya and just because you think he truly meant the things he said doesn't mean that he really is racist. This debate is completely subjective and what makes it interesting is you can have a white guy say hes a racist and I'm done with him and a black guy say I believe his apology and I don't believe he's truly racist. My comment on Donald Sterling was a figure of speech you cited 2 or 3 people that supported Sterling there is tons of wrestlers and celebrities supporting Hogan as well as a high number of people on social media and online wrestling sites. Did anybody support Sterling online or on social media? and why is that? because Sterling had a long history of racial remarks and incidents. Comparing the two is apple and oranges. And congratulations to you for being a perfect little saint who can hold his anger in at all times I wish I knew you instead of the people I've met from all circles of life. One day you will finally snap it might not be a racial, homophobic or sexiest but you will snap in the heat of the moment and you will be like almost every other human that has made this mistake.

Out of curiosity, what are you trying to prove here? That racism is inexcusable--except for certain circumstances? Or just because you go on a racial tirade and declare yourself as racist, you're not actually racist? Or racism depends on the mood you're in? Or having black friends negates racism?

You know Dylann Roof had black friends, right?