Madden NFL 16 Player Ratings - Top 6 Quarterbacks

[talucchesi]

Quote: Originally Posted by DCEBB2001

You know the real funny thing about this is that I am just interpolating the scouting data. I am NOT rating these players. An NFL front office has scouts who are rating the players with this much of a gap. My bias is not included. If people understood that professional scouts who work for an NFL front office are saying that this is how players should be rated, would that change their minds? If I am brought in to do these ratings, I would simply ignore people who are ignorant to the facts.

To be clear I looove the idea of your rating system, it separates the good from the great. What I have a problem with is when Tom Brady is not a top 5 quarterback, and I KNOW Nfl scouts, casual fans, fellow players, your grandma can all agree TB is a top 5 quarterback...

Now maybe the overall system needs to be adjusted. If the players play the way they do in real life in the game, thats awesome. But your rating system is gonna scare away a lot of people when Tom Brady isn't a top 5 qb

[talucchesi]

Quote: Originally Posted by FaceMask

Yeah, except it's not. Aaron Rodgers had 3 bad regular season games, Romo only had 2. Romo statistically had a better playoff season as well: higher completion percentage, better QB rating, no INT's. Aaron Rodgers wasn't even the best player in football to begin with. JJ Watt was, and had the Texans made the playoffs Watt would've been the NFL MVP. Add that to Romo's case.

I respect your argument but I have to disagree a little bit.

To me, Romo had the almost EXACT same year Romo has every other year. The only difference? Slightly less mistakes and was asked to do slightly less. So if this is the case, Romo should be top 3 for winning MVP or best QB every year (shoot maybe he should lol, whole 'nother discussion).

The only thing that put Aaron ahead for me is that he had to carry a team, while in my opinion Romo wasn't even the most valuable to our team. IMO Dmo or the entire offensive line should be winning MVP over Tony

[talucchesi]

Quote: Originally Posted by DCEBB2001

The way I see it, if production and injuries affect the OVR score as separate attributes for scouts, why wouldn't it be a part of Madden? Or, why NOT have it a part of Madden. Seems to make sense to me. The people can see why a guy like Romo, IN THE OFFSEAON, is only a 73 OVR (still very good). They can look at his injury modifier (as part of the OVR grade) and make a decision to play him (risking further injury) or sit him until he gets healthy. Obviously teams take that chance in real life and sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Last year, it worked for Romo, and his OVR went up. Once the season ended, it went down. That seems to be a dynamic answer to this problem. Give the users all the data they want and let them take the risks in their own CFM.

I second this, this sounds awesome

I apologize Dan for being so harsh earlier, I really like this idea now that I understand it fully

[DCEBB2001]

Quote: Originally Posted by talucchesi

To be clear I looove the idea of your rating system, it separates the good from the great. What I have a problem with is when Tom Brady is not a top 5 quarterback, and I KNOW Nfl scouts, casual fans, fellow players, your grandma can all agree TB is a top 5 quarterback... Now maybe the overall system needs to be adjusted. If the players play the way they do in real life in the game, thats awesome. But your rating system is gonna scare away a lot of people when Tom Brady isn't a top 5 qb

Read the FAQ on my page about injuries/suspensions affecting the OVR grade. Once he gets cleared to be back on the field, his grade will go back up to what it was before the suspension was handed down:

http://www.fbgratings.com/members/ratings.php?genpos=QB

[AP 17]

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/13261036/league-insiders-rank-32-starting-quarterbacks-tiers-nfl

Everyone seems to be an expert. Well let's see what the real experts say. Brady not in the top 5, u must be a Jets fan!

[Sheba2011]

Quote: Originally Posted by AP 17

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/13261036/league-insiders-rank-32-starting-quarterbacks-tiers-nfl Everyone seems to be an expert. Well let's see what the real experts say. Brady not in the top 5, u must be a Jets fan!

When did ESPN become the real experts lol? Real experts at gossip and Lebron James fandom maybe.

[gr18]

No one should be surprised when Peyton is playing like a top 2 or 3 qb for at least the first half of the season anyway.Don't trust the second half though until I see otherwise.

[Sheba2011]

Quote: Originally Posted by gr18

No one should be surprised when Peyton is playing like a top 2 or 3 qb for at least the first half of the season anyway.Don't trust the second half though until I see otherwise.

Even as a Patriots/Brady fan I respect the hell out of Manning and think he is one of the top 10 greatest QB's to ever play the game. But I think his career is just about over. And with Baltimore, KC, Detroit, Green Bay and Indy in his first 8 games it might be a rough stretch. The final 8 is even worse KC, Chicago, New England, SD (twice), Pittsburgh and Cincy. Denver could be looking at a 6-7 win season this year.