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Old 07-24-2015, 03:52 AM   #129
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Re: Madden NFL 16 Player Ratings - Top 6 Quarterbacks

Peyton is absolutely not a top 5 qb anymore. If the Super Bowl is today and I have to pick a QB to win it for me I can think of 7 guys I take over him easily. He's still a low-upper or high-middle tier player due to his outstanding football IQ and ability to read defenses but physically he has extremely few tools left at his disposal
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Old 07-24-2015, 07:10 AM   #130
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I think you just gotta take a wait and see approach with Peyton from here on out. You know he's going to show up one year and just be finished basically. Despite the way last year ended, he was still one of the best QBs in the league for the overall year. If he's actually healthier this year like the reports say, there's no reason he can't be one of the best again.

If the season had ended after just half a season, you would have thought Peyton was top 3 and Brady was hitting the wall. The NFL season is very fluid.


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Old 07-24-2015, 08:29 AM   #131
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Romo better be sixth here. Perception is truly reality when it comes to sports.

Not quite sure how Big Ben is ahead of him, living off of his rings I see.

I can see Peyton being over Romo, I'd accept that.
Agreed... I have been disgusted by the way Romo has been rated in Madden every year. He should have one of the Highest Elusiveness Ratings at the QB Pos. Probly a higher Agl/Acc rating too. He's slipped more would be sacks then any of the "Mobile" QBs like Vick, RGKnee, Wilson, Kaep, etc. & spun out of the pocket to elude the rush, all while keeping his eyes downfield & manuevering himself & his WRs into position to make a huge play better then Anyone Ive ever seen do it... Save for maybe Randall Cunningham. Romo's Awareness, throw on the run, elusiveness, spin move and Deep ball should be right up around the top of the list...

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Old 07-24-2015, 09:37 AM   #132
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If the Super Bowl is today and I have to pick a QB to win it for me I can think of 7 guys I take over him easily.
Honestly, you could pick any year of his career and I would've said this, maybe not 7 guys, but still. He's had a lot of playoff meltdowns, and save for the AFC Championship comeback against New England in the year he won his lone Super Bowl, he was unspectacular in that playoff season, and I still say Dominic Rhodes--not Peyton Manning--should've won Super Bowl MVP that year.
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Old 07-24-2015, 10:13 AM   #133
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I don't know. We will have to see how things shake out before then.
That makes it difficult to take your evaluation seriously. Tom Brady is quite obviously one of the best QB's in the league. Suspended or not, his overall should reflect his abilities.
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That makes it difficult to take your evaluation seriously. Tom Brady is quite obviously one of the best QB's in the league. Suspended or not, his overall should reflect his abilities.
This is one of the most asinine arguments I have ever seen.

His attributes say what he should be as a player, not his overall. The overall grade applied to him by the scouts is the only thing holding him back. Like I said before, and this is me simply knowing how the data ebbs and flows, once he is cleared to play (whenever that is) his OVR grade will go back up because the hold will be removed. It doesn't affect his abilities one darn bit.

In fact, I think it would be best if the darn OVR was entirely disregarded altogether. His attributes should reflect his abilities, not his overall.
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This is one of the most asinine arguments I have ever seen.

His attributes say what he should be as a player, not his overall. The overall grade applied to him by the scouts is the only thing holding him back. Like I said before, and this is me simply knowing how the data ebbs and flows, once he is cleared to play (whenever that is) his OVR grade will go back up because the hold will be removed. It doesn't affect his abilities one darn bit.

In fact, I think it would be best if the darn OVR was entirely disregarded altogether. His attributes should reflect his abilities, not his overall.
I'm sorry you feel that way. Yes, his attributes say what he should be as a player, but the overall should reflect those numbers. The overall is important in Madden because of CPU player management. I don't see how you could intelligently make a trade with the CPU if there was no overall. I think re-tooling the calculations is necessary, but not getting rid of it all together.

I asked you if Tom Brady would be a top 5 QB if Madden came out today, and you said idk. That doesn't make any sense to me. You and I both know (I hope) that Tom Brady is one of the best in the game. I don't care if he's suspended a few games. It's not like he just magically got worse at playing football. So when you present your top 5 QB's and leave Tom Brady out because of a suspension, it really doesn't make much sense in the Madden world. Or the real world for that matter.
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I'm sorry you feel that way. Yes, his attributes say what he should be as a player, but the overall should reflect those numbers. The overall is important in Madden because of CPU player management. I don't see how you could intelligently make a trade with the CPU if there was no overall. I think re-tooling the calculations is necessary, but not getting rid of it all together.

I asked you if Tom Brady would be a top 5 QB if Madden came out today, and you said idk. That doesn't make any sense to me. You and I both know (I hope) that Tom Brady is one of the best in the game. I don't care if he's suspended a few games. It's not like he just magically got worse at playing football. So when you present your top 5 QB's and leave Tom Brady out because of a suspension, it really doesn't make much sense in the Madden world. Or the real world for that matter.
Nobody is saying he magically got worse at playing football. The "top 5" that is being discussed is based purely on the OVR rating, which as Dan said, isn't a reflection of his ability. His attributes(which are a reflection of his abilities) haven't gotten worse and he will still perform as a top QB. His OVR will take a hit from the suspension, because that's the way these ratings work, but in no way does it effect how good he is or how he will perform.

Or I could be totally misunderstanding everything and you can ignore my post.
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