Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

[DCEBB2001]

Quote: Originally Posted by 2_headedmonster

teamwork makes the dream work. I respect your position, but try to think of a compromise you could live with for the betterment of Madden.

How is compromising a system that works, with years of research placed into it, benefiting Madden if they don't use it the way it is supposed to be used?

[Sheba2011]

Does anyone really think the rating or system are going to change without him? The ratings in this game are just as much marketing as they are anything else. The casual fanbase wants to see their favorite players rated as high as possible.

[4thQtrStre5S]

Quote: Originally Posted by Sheba2011

Does anyone really think the rating or system are going to change without him? The ratings in this game are just as much marketing as they are anything else. The casual fanbase wants to see their favorite players rated as high as possible.

The fans do want to see their favorite players rated high, and that is a huge issue to getting anything effective in the game, such as more logical ratings.

[msdm27]

Quote: Originally Posted by 4thQtrStre5S

The fans do want to see their favorite players rated high, and that is a huge issue to getting anything effective in the game, such as more logical ratings.

As some have mentioned, it is probably unlikely to expect a dramatic change in the ratings themselves. We'll probably still have an overflow of 90+ rated players.

And if they indeed decide to stay with that "marketing based" approach to ratings then the real fix should be to modify the scale that differentiates ratings; make a 95 play and feel different than a 93, for example.

[4thQtrStre5S]

Quote: Originally Posted by msdm27

As some have mentioned, it is probably unlikely to expect a dramatic change in the ratings themselves. We'll probably still have an overflow of 90+ rated players. And if they indeed decide to stay with that "marketing based" approach to ratings then the real fix should be to modify the scale that differentiates ratings; make a 95 play and feel different than a 93, for example.

I agree with that idea..It needs to be the hidden mechanics of the game itself that needs to change while leaving the window dressing of high ratings available for the fans to swoon over..Hell, even NFL players have discussed their ratings, even disagreeing with how they were rated..

It has already been noted by EA that there have been some adjustments to how speed will be worked for M16..SO I assume ratings won't change for speed, but behind the scenes it is going to be calculated differently to some degree...

[msdm27]

Quote: Originally Posted by 4thQtrStre5S

I agree with that idea..It needs to be the hidden mechanics of the game itself that needs to change while leaving the window dressing of high ratings available for the fans to swoon over..Hell, even NFL players have discussed their ratings, even disagreeing with how they were rated.. It has already been noted by EA that there have been some adjustments to how speed will be worked for M16..SO I assume ratings won't change for speed, but behind the scenes it is going to be calculated differently to some degree...

Jepp, the solution has to be that (internal adjustments to the scale)

I honestly don't care if a player like Matt Ryan is a 87 or a 91, as long as there is a noticeable difference between that 91 and player rated above that number, even if it's only a 93.

[barsoffury]

I know it won't happen but now would be a good time to try something new with the ratings system and other sports titles have discussed it for a few years now (The Show, I've seen it talked, hoped for but it still has never been tried) and that is to eliminate "overall" numbers ratings and use things like statistics, performance, and maybe some numbers like 40 times, bench reps, cone drills, etc. to determine a player's value and ability.
Things like the scouting combine would be that much more beneficial to have. Scouts in general would be more important. You would have to use your head more by looking at a player's production and how it compares to the rest of the league.

[poster]

First the development team needs to incorporate full editing of players in any of the game modes at any time.

Second, if marketing wants to have a hand in ratings, they can write up a manual that comes with the game or a blog post that is visible anywhere on the Madden website that explains in detail how to edit the rating of your players to whatever you think it should be.

I know, I know. Wishful thinking.

Best of luck, Dan! Hope things work out for you, whatever comes of it. Glad to hear you won't compromise and hopefully you can make a difference in improving the game if a partnership materializes.