Donny Moore, the 'Madden Ratings Czar', Leaving EA

[Luke Skywalker]

I guess this means Odell Beckham Jr will not be rated 99 overall?

[SolidSquid]

Quote: Originally Posted by Luke Skywalker

I guess this means Odell Beckham Jr will not be rated 99 overall?

Or the new rating system will go up to 150..

[ggsimmonds]

Quote: Originally Posted by DCEBB2001

If they bring me in to do their ratings, one of the first things I would do is suggest to do away with the overall rating. Let the users "scout" their team like real GMs and coaches do based upon the TRAITS and PRODUCTION of their players. If you have a WR who has 1500 yards and 10 TDs a season, who cares if he is only a 61 OVR right? Start that guy based on what allowed him to produce, not his overall rating! Common sense here!

Yeah, you are not getting the job.

I never really had a problem with Donny's ratings. My problems were with the gameplay side of it. Donny rated players within a system, I don't think he designed the mechanics of the system though. He is a football guy, not a programmer.

If we want changes to the ratings system, the core gameplay mechanics would need a overhaul as well.

I think Donny did about as well as one could hope for in the circumstances.

[StefJoeHalt]

Quote: Originally Posted by Senator Palmer

Don't the overalls heavily influence what goes on in CFM such as salary demands, trade value, free agency, player development? It's already wonky now but I can just imagine how completely broken it would be with this drastic a change. I'm no expert but the re-writing of the code would have to be substantial, I would think, to re-weigh everything to traits -- the same trait system that I still don't think is totally fleshed out. I just don't see EA even putting that on the table

Senator..I want to do away with overall..but I think "hiding" it would do..they can keep overall in the game but in the background..when u posted made me realize ur point..but fair half way point is keep it in the background


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[4thQtrStre5S]

Quote: Originally Posted by ggsimmonds

Yeah, you are not getting the job. I never really had a problem with Donny's ratings. My problems were with the gameplay side of it. Donny rated players within a system, I don't think he designed the mechanics of the system though. He is a football guy, not a programmer. If we want changes to the ratings system, the core gameplay mechanics would need a overhaul as well. I think Donny did about as well as one could hope for in the circumstances.

And your qualifications are?

[ggsimmonds]

Quote: Originally Posted by 4thQtrStre5S

And your qualifications are?

None.

Sorry if it offends you or causes you to get defensive, but my guess is that if he tells EA that the first thing he would do is get rid of the overall, they probably will not hire him.

Sorry you don't like it, but it goes against their design vision.

Also I personally would not hire him because of this:
"FBG Ratings is a one man show"
"Let the users "scout" their team like real GMs and coaches do based upon the TRAITS and PRODUCTION of their players."

My perspective is that on one hand he is saying my way or not at all, i.e. he does the ratings as he sees fit and will not alter his system to accommodate marketing or whoever. Sure that is fine.
But he then steps outside of ratings and suggests that the CFM guys do their thing differently.

So he is not keen on people giving him outside input but he is already doing that himself?

Look it is nothing against him or the ratings, but if I was EA I would not be too eager to hire him. ( I personally feel that the changes he suggests are good ones, but it is not about my opinion. Try to put yourself into EA's shoes)

[kehlis]

Quote: Originally Posted by 4thQtrStre5S

And your qualifications are?

If he gives them the prerequisite that they won't hire him if he will remove overalls he will not get the job.

Don't need any qualifications to know that.

[4thQtrStre5S]

Quote: Originally Posted by ggsimmonds

None. Sorry if it offends you or causes you to get defensive, but my guess is that if he tells EA that the first thing he would do is get rid of the overall, they probably will not hire him. Sorry you don't like it, but it goes against their design vision. Also I personally would not hire him because of this: "FBG Ratings is a one man show" "Let the users "scout" their team like real GMs and coaches do based upon the TRAITS and PRODUCTION of their players." My perspective is that on one hand he is saying my way or not at all, i.e. he does the ratings as he sees fit and will not alter his system to accommodate marketing or whoever. Sure that is fine. But he then steps outside of ratings and suggests that the CFM guys do their thing differently. So he is not keen on people giving him outside input but he is already doing that himself? Look it is nothing against him or the ratings, but if I was EA I would not be too eager to hire him. ( I personally feel that the changes he suggests are good ones, but it is not about my opinion. Try to put yourself into EA's shoes)

Why would I be offended? You weren't talking to me; I just wanted to know your qualifications because your reply seemed to suggest you had some sort of EA insight...

Sounds like you're offended by Dan..