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Old 12-22-2014, 12:20 PM   #241
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Re: More MLB 15 The Show Details Revealed - New Radio Show, Improved Load Times & Mor

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Gotta call this out. Just have too. It's wrong in so many ways.

This team and game should never at this point ever be mentioned in the same breath as Madden. And although I love Madden 14 and am playing it more than any Madden since Madden 2005/07 for the PS2, The Show puts out a product of the highest quality offline.

I am sure the evolution of this incredible game will continue on the PS4. Give them a few cycles to add more to the already marvelous simulation (of the greatest sport) ever to grace console gaming.

This game owns my soul. No reason it will lose me again with MLB The Show 15.

Yeah I want more stuff. We all do. But calling them out and lumping them in with a game that has been complete misery for a decade (till now IMO) is really short sighted and complete hyperboyle.

Just my 2 cents (much like yours as well I get it)
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Old 12-22-2014, 12:23 PM   #242
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Gotta call this out. Just have too. It's wrong in so many ways.

This team and game should never at this point ever be mentioned in the same breath as Madden. And although I love Madden 14 and am playing it more than any Madden since Madden 2005/07 for the PS2, The Show puts out a product of the highest quality offline.

I am sure the evolution of this incredible game will continue on the PS4. Give them a few cycles to add more to the already marvelous simulation (of the greatest sport) ever to grace console gaming.

This game owns my soul. No reason it will lose me again with MLB The Show 15.

Yeah I want more stuff. We all do. But calling them out and lumping them in with a game that has been complete misery for a decade (till now IMO) is really short sighted and complete hyperboyle.

Just my 2 cents (much like yours as well I get it)
100% spot on. Comparing the Show to Madden is like comparing steak to cotton candy.
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Old 12-22-2014, 12:54 PM   #243
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Re: More MLB 15 The Show Details Revealed - New Radio Show, Improved Load Times & Mor

A&S and Rules, I just want to be the happy medium of this statement.

SCEA San Diego is a company that wants to make money, and they work below this bigger enterprise called Sony. I might be saying some of these names wrong or whatever, but there will be instances where Sony might say something to them like, "We're making this thing called the Move, and you're a first-party title. Put it in the game." Same thing with 3D. I'm not saying these things wouldn't be in the game or they didn't want it, but I'm sure that time to time there are some specific things that they have to say/do each year where their hands are tied. Tiburon might be restricted the same way with EA, if that makes sense. The guys who make Madden could be the most talented, devoted developers in the world for all we know. To provide my own anecdote, I personally knew two Blue Shift developers and one Kush developer who all had something to say about what VC required them to do for the 2K series against their will. Anyway, enough said on that.

The second thing about them making money is that they might want the greatest baseball simulation in the world, but this can only be made in a perfect world. In a perfect world, what OS wants is not what the casual gamer wants. We get our fix (I truly can't say how many times these guys have responded to my nagging so kindly and have implemented most of what I always wish to come true, perhaps like the lighting this year), but at the same time they have to throw in things that appeal to the non baseball gamer. And to be honest, sometimes that's the best flavor to test your game with. Try it out with people who don't know baseball well (except like the basic idea of it) and have them call out certain things that none of us would ever see, consider, or possibly even enjoy. Then take notes on it, and go back to the lab to make some magic. Directional Hitting just might be one of those things, as could have been Pulse Pitching, Dynamic Difficulty, Diamond Dynasty, King of the Hill (I don't remember what the mode was called but you get the point), etc. Now some of these features we actually love and enjoy very much, while some of these things are just meh, you know what they are. But they want to sell this game to a larger audience, and sometimes it just means doing things that will appeal to them.

So no, they are not like the Madden developers in that I believe their intent is just, pure, and always puts us at the forefront. However, you have to remember that year in and year out, they have to make a game and it has to profit for them to keep making games. When games get stale are when they have the same thing over and over, even when it's an improved version of that thing. So a new hitting system comes into place, like analog controls did, or quick counts, locking on one player, etc. Some great items have been implemented as a result of hearing from the masses, and OS is the smallest percentage that thinks we are such a large part of the fanbase. We may be most devoted, but they could erase us like that and it wouldn't make a difference in sales. But they don't, and that is really what makes them different from the rest, including Tiburon. We are truly lucky folk, but everyone needs to understand that back of the box features come and go, games can feel the same for many years, but they really should not be thrown under the bus for it. I'm not really going to say their hands are tied or anything, but you just have to remember that they have to make money and even their bosses have bosses.
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Blzer soon your posts are going to need to be in spoiler tags, they are the size of a small thesis, lol!
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Good points by all of you!

That was probably not a fair comparison on my part. I am getting tired of asking for the same thing for the past ten years as working weather, cancellations, double-headers are such a big part of baseball. Other games such as F1 have mastered the weather system and it disappoints me year after year that SCEA refuses to add this. If you want a TRUE SIM baseball game then this needs to be added. Again, make it an option so that we can truly enjoy the game.

I agree MLB The Show is fantastic in so many ways. However, it has become stale the past few years as they keep focusing on things that really are not that exciting to some of us. Each year it is the same for people like me. Ask for working weather that impacts the gameplay...............end result ignored and another year goes bye. Again, you guys are right on many levels as Madden wasn't the right choice of words. I said Madden cause that was a game I used to enjoy before they started catering to the arcade masses bringing the game to it's knees. Same commentary, same focus on so many things that are not impacting the action on the field. Too many bells and whistles that don't bring enjoyment to the real sim players.

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Rules,
I'm all for dynamic weather as well. Having realistic cloud coverage and different types of clouds, that would move across the sky in real time would be awesome and give so much more life to game. for years the sky in the show has been very weak, and mlb the show on the ps4 had to be the worse of them all
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can you imagine how beautiful the game would look if they could replicate skies like in these screen shots
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Old 12-22-2014, 04:01 PM   #247
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I really hope the grass and dirt in all the stadiums get a major upgrade in 15. Because they look pretty bad in MLB 14 The Show PS4 version.

Especially the infield dirt.
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Especially the infield dirt.
My soil science teacher in college would eat you alive. It is soil not dirt! Dirt is what you get on your pants!
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