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Old 10-08-2014, 06:29 PM   #57
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Re: Despite Its Issues, NHL 15 Is Still a Thrill On-Ice

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Are you basing this off of just members here at OS Forums? If so, let me explain to you from a long time member standpoint of view as i been a member here for 12 years now....there are a lot of very very finicky almost childish kind of members here with a lot of their gripes and dislikes of this game and any other sports game tha that has its own sub-forum here at OS Forums.

One thing i learned here after being here so long is that people want their sports games tailored to their own liking "OR" they read someone else negative slandering feedback and literally get hypnotized off it and from that point on their eye's are totally focused on that specific bug or problem in the game, even as minor as it may be...they will make it a mountain out of a mole hill.

Long story short - Enjoy video games for what it is, not what it's not. Dont fall for negative people or negative comments you read in here from personal opinions because its nothing but their own opinion and once you start feeding into that BS ...it'll suck all the fun out of every game you play. Do NOT get into the habit of dissecting and putting a videogame under the microscope like so MANY members here do...i mean they literally pop the new game in and put it under the microscope searching for bugs, flaws or just any negative thing their eye's can find because they are already set to look out for negative BS, its a bad kind of mind-set to have ..its simply non-sense and all you gotta do is look at each member's history of posts that are posting harsh negative feedback and i guarantee you the majority of their posts are all like that. Dont get me wrong, there is a place for constructive criticism and we need to share our thoughts on bugs, flaws,etc and what can be improved....I am simply talking about the posts with harsh bashing of a game or portions of a game...

The reason why i say all this is that i use to be like that a lot...i was so caught up on expecting perfection and a bug-free game that i would pop in the new game and just go looking for every thing that i didnt like....rather than popping in the game and just enjoying it for what it is.....Im telling you man, you seem to already have a strong position on your aspect and opinion of the game...that is good, keep it that way because i am telling you man...it will never stop here at OS Forums....this place is notorious for whiny-type, bashing feedback of games and people that only looking for bugs, flaws, and all negative aspects of sports video games.

Like i said...enjoy the games for what they are...no game will ever be perfect and no human is perfect so there is no way a game will ever be perfect but i get a feeling some people around here expect a video game to be and play as smart as the real sport...and that just baffles me.

He was talking about YOU.(not only you...but...)
You do that very thing with The Show.....yet turn a blind eye to NHL and want everyone else to as well.

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Old 10-08-2014, 06:51 PM   #58
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You are dead wrong. I admire your enthusiasm, I really do, but all the things theyve taken out of the game, I have absolutely no problem making negative comments towards the game *because that's how games are improved*. And people that are *simply satisfied with less* are giving the developers the ok to give us less. EA took the wind out of 2K's sails to create a hockey game, and this is the only option, so it had better be a good one. Unfortunately aside from the presentation, it is not a good one. Its the only modern option I have and Im glad I chose not to buy it. I've gone to a friend's house on several occasions to give it another try, but am simply dissatisfied. The goalies are brutal, and the flow of gameplay is generally unrealistic.

I agree with you that it would be impossible to please everyone, but if the AI were a little more realistic, especially the goalies, and they didnt take out all the content they did, they wouldnt be receiving so many complaints. They are receiving legitimate complaints. This is how they will change - less sales and complaints.
Fair enough but they brought back the magical bouncing puck ? I guess I just try to appreciate everything this game did so well when it was released a month ago gameplay wise through REAL player and puck Physics and they pretty much got rid of that scripted feeling that I feel in MLB the show you know like Im just watching a scenario unfold I have little to do with .

I mean Im playing Was at pitt game 6 down 3 games to 2 and pitt scores 3 generated goals , one where I was blocked out to make a block and two other turnovers I had nothing to do with and now I just got a goal I didnt deserve so its 3-1 and Im sure Ill have a few more to make it exciting .

But once again its the HOW as all 4 goals were generated and this game didnt play this way on release so what lt did great is now gone which is really sad as it was a great base if they could have then added in better D positioning without making it go all NHL Hitz with a scripted feel and the last minute of every game now is horrible .

UPDATE : Ok I scored again seconds after my last goal on a just inside the blue line goal ? and its 3-2 now and the game didnt play this way before , still kinda fun but over time it will get boring for me just like the show did .
Worse comes to worse I can always uninstall the game and just not update it as it was that good .
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He was talking about YOU.(not only you...but...)
You do that very thing with The Show.....yet turn a blind eye to NHL and want everyone else to as well.

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Your really assuming things but what your saying is a flat out lie and do you speak for Moe or even read my posts after the patch and tuner ?

If you doubt me contact my new friend Moe as we become friends over his wonderful enlightening post and why I dont partake in pointless arguing so many like to engage in that normally goes nowhere.
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I guess it comes down to if you thought that NHL14 gameplay was great, or you haven't played the series in a while, I can see why you think NHL15 is great, in terms of gameplay (assuming you can look past the game modes, or maybe they never really appealed to you, so it's a small loss).

But, haven't watched a ton of videos from NHL15, i just don't see any real gameplay difference, and i think that's what's most frustrating.
The AI players still skate and warp around in all sorts of odd pirouettes and clippings out on the ice. They still appear to make uncanny passes from odd angles, no matter how high or low their skill ratings in that area might be, and no matter how many defenders standing between them watch the puck slide through.
The AI still looks like they're scoring on goals that should be easy saves, while the goalies get out of position, either by tracking the puck too far (it seems that they always try to be centered on the puck, which isn't always bad, but when it's the AI receiving a backhand all 3 feet past the net, that they can then slide instantly back, it leaves a goalie that's sliding too far across the crease, instead of moving slightly and pivoting. The goalie movement could use a big rework.) or the goalie just missed a simple pass or soft shot. But, they'll still sometimes make some magical save that superman couldn't have moved fast enough to stop.

I guess that's all part of my frustration. These are the same things that drove me crazy in NHL 13, and more so in NHL 14. I hoped that NHL 15 and the Next-Gen engine was going to finally give them the processing power and the on-board storage to give the AI all the systems they needed to recognize something simple like going in on a 2-on-1 to stay with me, not stop at the blue line and wait for...i don't know what. Or when there are players in front of the net, the defenders shouldn't skate off to cross-check the guy without the puck into the boards and leave the net open while drawing an interference penalty.
The series has so much promise, and the graphics engine looks great, but there are so many problems, game play being the biggest gripe of mine, that frustrate me beyond belief. I want NHL 15 to be the game i'd hoped it was, but every video I've seen just leads me to believe it's NHL 13.75 with a seriously good looking coat of paint.
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This is such a great post!
Thank U..

??? does Hank own the game or just basing this off of videos ?

UPDATE : you dont want know how this game turned out but nerfing everywhere 4-4 OT starting now and its still a thrill on ice but not very interactive and even the penalties I drew before the patch and tuner are generated.
lol lost in OT bad scripting with 9 generated goals
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Your really assuming things but what your saying is a flat out lie and do you speak for Moe or even read my posts after the patch and tuner ?

If you doubt me contact my new friend Moe as we become friends over his wonderful enlightening post and why I dont partake in pointless arguing so many like to engage in that normally goes nowhere.
Lie?
LMFAO......
I didn't mean you specifically....just posters like you.
You should go back and read your posts from The Show threads...you(and anyone) will see exactly what I mean....and the parallel to "your friend" Moes post quite "funny".

I'm glad you're having fun with NHL though...

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Are you basing this off of just members here at OS Forums? If so, let me explain to you from a long time member standpoint of view as i been a member here for 12 years now....
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Re: Despite Its Issues, NHL 15 Is Still a Thrill On-Ice

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I love this by Moegames , says it all




Are you basing this off of just members here at OS Forums? If so, let me explain to you from a long time member standpoint of view as i been a member here for 12 years now....there are a lot of very very finicky almost childish kind of members here with a lot of their gripes and dislikes of this game and any other sports game tha that has its own sub-forum here at OS Forums.

One thing i learned here after being here so long is that people want their sports games tailored to their own liking "OR" they read someone else negative slandering feedback and literally get hypnotized off it and from that point on their eye's are totally focused on that specific bug or problem in the game, even as minor as it may be...they will make it a mountain out of a mole hill.

Long story short - Enjoy video games for what it is, not what it's not. Dont fall for negative people or negative comments you read in here from personal opinions because its nothing but their own opinion and once you start feeding into that BS ...it'll suck all the fun out of every game you play. Do NOT get into the habit of dissecting and putting a videogame under the microscope like so MANY members here do...i mean they literally pop the new game in and put it under the microscope searching for bugs, flaws or just any negative thing their eye's can find because they are already set to look out for negative BS, its a bad kind of mind-set to have ..its simply non-sense and all you gotta do is look at each member's history of posts that are posting harsh negative feedback and i guarantee you the majority of their posts are all like that. Dont get me wrong, there is a place for constructive criticism and we need to share our thoughts on bugs, flaws,etc and what can be improved....I am simply talking about the posts with harsh bashing of a game or portions of a game...

The reason why i say all this is that i use to be like that a lot...i was so caught up on expecting perfection and a bug-free game that i would pop in the new game and just go looking for every thing that i didnt like....rather than popping in the game and just enjoying it for what it is.....Im telling you man, you seem to already have a strong position on your aspect and opinion of the game...that is good, keep it that way because i am telling you man...it will never stop here at OS Forums....this place is notorious for whiny-type, bashing feedback of games and people that only looking for bugs, flaws, and all negative aspects of sports video games.

Like i said...enjoy the games for what they are...no game will ever be perfect and no human is perfect so there is no way a game will ever be perfect but i get a feeling some people around here expect a video game to be and play as smart as the real sport...and that just baffles me.
Ummm...quick question...you've been a member for 12 years now...but your join date is 2013.

I'd like a quick answer, please.
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