NBA 2K15 Gameplay Video - Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Los Angeles Lakers

[Sundown]

Quote: Originally Posted by blues rocker

it's called realism. there would only be loose balls if you're careless. just pay attention to where you're dribbling and pay attention to which hand you dribble with and you could easily avoid turnovers. are people really not capable of this? all you have to do is move the left stick slightly left or right to switch the ball to the other hand...this control has been in the game for years.

The dribbling animations, controls, and movement in past games were a bit messy to make this practical. But it's getting smoother and better and I'm usually pretty aware of ball protection. Isn't loss of dribble due to carelessness already in the game? I know certain moves that expose the ball and causes it to bump into defenders is almost always a turnover.

[The 24th Letter]

That's a little more realism than I want in a basketball video game.

It's like having to constantly press the "a" button to dribble the ball up and down court.
or like Elite 11, where you manually had to switch your ball hand.
It's like having to use the R and L thumb sticks to control the right and left leg of the player to run down court.

All 'realistic' ideas....but in the realm of video games, they're unnecessary. There needs to be a balance.

It's not really about being capable as it is actually wanting to enjoy the game.

[Vni]

That would be worth giving it a shot. Maybe it could be part of a hardcore mode. I think it could become second nature very fast but I would totally understand that people woudn't want to bother with that much realism in a video game.

[El_Poopador]

Quote: Originally Posted by blues rocker

it's called realism. there would only be loose balls if you're careless. just pay attention to where you're dribbling and pay attention to which hand you dribble with and you could easily avoid turnovers. are people really not capable of this? all you have to do is move the left stick slightly left or right to switch the ball to the other hand...this control has been in the game for years.

Yes, you can switch hands. But you don't have the subtle control that would be needed to make it realistic. I can't move the ball slightly toward my back, or turn my body slightly to shield the ball from a defender if I don't want to just switch hands. Some things need to be done automatically in the video game world.

And when you're dribbling in real life, you aren't looking at the ball; you just feel where it is, so your eyes can look around the court and see what's open. In the game, you obviously will never actually feel your dribble, or if you're too close to a defender or teammate, or whatever. You have to see it, which means your eyes are focusing there instead of looking for openings.

[Vni]

Quote: Originally Posted by El_Poopador

Yes, you can switch hands. But you don't have the subtle control that would be needed to make it realistic. I can't move the ball slightly toward my back, or turn my body slightly to shield the ball from a defender if I don't want to just switch hands. Some things need to be done automatically in the video game world. And when you're dribbling in real life, you aren't looking at the ball; you just feel where it is, so your eyes can look around the court and see what's open. In the game, you obviously will never actually feel your dribble, or if you're too close to a defender or teammate, or whatever. You have to see it, which means your eyes are focusing there instead of looking for openings.

Would it really be that much different than making sure you're shooting with the player's strong foot before shooting in Fifa ?

[VDusen04]

Quote: Originally Posted by Vni

That would be worth giving it a shot. Maybe it could be part of a hardcore mode. I think it could become second nature very fast but I would totally understand that people woudn't want to bother with that much realism in a video game.

It's an interesting notion to contemplate. On the surface, it seems very realistic but I'd wonder if control and feel in a video game would ever reach a level where such interactions would feel natural.

As it stands, if super live ball dribbling were implemented, I feel as though I'd be ball handling with fear at almost all times, as if I were walking a tight rope. I may believe the current system better replicates the feel of real life ball handling in many aspects than a really live ball system might. For in real life, I'm very often able to establish a level of comfort when dribbling against a defender without having to think too deeply, except at key interactive moments. 2K doesn't completely replicate that, but it's of a similar vein.

I guess I feel as though it sounds like there'd be a lack of stability. Anything can happen at any time in real life but there remains a sense of stability without players having to be constantly aware of every single dribble they make. Would a live ball make dribbling feel life-like? Or would it provide a frequent helpless feeling from gamers not being able to elicit the same 1:1 reaction & control time they may otherwise be able to utilize in real life?

[VDusen04]

Quote: Originally Posted by El_Poopador

Yes, you can switch hands. But you don't have the subtle control that would be needed to make it realistic. I can't move the ball slightly toward my back, or turn my body slightly to shield the ball from a defender if I don't want to just switch hands. Some things need to be done automatically in the video game world.

That's a great point I was just about to mention as well. There are so many intricacies to ball control in real life that I wonder if they could all be properly conveyed and employed to the user in the face of otherwise potentially losing the ball or turning over.

Switching hands to avoid a defender who's cut off a lane is one thing. But as you said, in real life there are so many other reactionary details and maneuvers that occur upon nearly foray to the hoop that I am uncertain if they could be reliably placed into the hands of every gamer.

[AceDawg5]

Quote: Originally Posted by CaCHooKa Man

And they still haven't fixed Xavier Henry's hair. I think the last time his hair was that long was when he was in high school 6 years ago.

I'll take Henry with the fro if they could just get Kyrie's hair right.....his face scan looks fine but that mop top is unacceptable.