FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

[Knelltone]

Quote: Originally Posted by da professor

Scouting and film of a player is probably 80-90% of a teams data for drafting...and the remaining 10 or so % is combine measurables. By FBGP ratings, everything is based on the past if I understand the explanation...which is a terrible representation of the current player. Lesean McCoy was a highlight reel almost every game. His cut backs/vision while the play was broken was remarkable, but Ray Rice is more agile/faster/quicker...but he couldn't get out of his own way last year. 1. I doubt they will change, especially since I'm the only one that thinks they are broken. It's obvious they are broken 2. How can the players play as they should when they are over or under rated? I've given multiple examples and nobody can give a good explanation. 3. Because the ratings are so incredible wrong that it bothers me that nobody has issue...

Perhaps I can elaborate more on the lesean mccoy vs. ray rice stat comparison. Firstly, just because lesean mccoy was awesome to watch last year doesn't mean he is the more agile of the 2 runners. Every single NFL run is a culmination of situational factors and player skill. That is to say, if a running back never gets past the line of scrimmage, you may never see him go full speed or perform some of his most ankle breaking cuts. Also, If the offensive line can't open holes the running back will have a hard time showcasing his talent. Also, keep in mind injury has an effect on player skill. Statistically, ray rice was horrible last year, but if you watched his games he hardly ever made it into the open field. This can be explained by injury and offensive line troubles.

Lesean mccoy on the other hand is often gifted with nice, wide running lanes. Whether this is because of blocking/cohesion(all the eagles starting line went injury free last year)offensive scheme, or desean jackson pushing safeties back is unimportant; suffice it to say, lesean mccoy had a fair few opportunities to break ankles.

Now if you look at ray rice version 2012, there are many more opportunities to see how he cuts in open space. In my amateuristic opinion, ray rice is just as(if not more) gifted at yuking opposing defenders 1 on 1. He definitely isn't as flashy as mccoy, but his change of direction is just as potent.

What you need to realize is that stats are not completely representative of a players skill and ability. It is a team sport, and the eagles were a much better offense last year, resulting in lesean mccoy appearing to be the better running back(they are at least similar based upon ray rice version 2012). Similar to peyton manning making every wide receiver he's ever played with look like a HOF-er, a great team can make an individual have better stats than he would have without them(not saying mccoy isn't good).

The goal of a perfect player rating is to numerically describe his talent, not rate his production/ popularity.

[DCEBB2001]

Quote: Originally Posted by Knelltone

Perhaps I can elaborate more on the lesean mccoy vs. ray rice stat comparison. Firstly, just because lesean mccoy was awesome to watch last year doesn't mean he is the more agile of the 2 runners. Every single NFL run is a culmination of situational factors and player skill. That is to say, if a running back never gets past the line of scrimmage, you may never see him go full speed or perform some of his most ankle breaking cuts. Also, If the offensive line can't open holes the running back will have a hard time showcasing his talent. Also, keep in mind injury has an effect on player skill. Statistically, ray rice was horrible last year, but if you watched his games he hardly ever made it into the open field. This can be explained by injury and offensive line troubles. Lesean mccoy on the other hand is often gifted with nice, wide running lanes. Whether this is because of blocking/cohesion(all the eagles starting line went injury free last year)offensive scheme, or desean jackson pushing safeties back is unimportant; suffice it to say, lesean mccoy had a fair few opportunities to break ankles. Now if you look at ray rice version 2012, there are many more opportunities to see how he cuts in open space. In my amateuristic opinion, ray rice is just as(if not more) gifted at yuking opposing defenders 1 on 1. He definitely isn't as flashy as mccoy, but his change of direction is just as potent. What you need to realize is that stats are not completely representative of a players skill and ability. It is a team sport, and the eagles were a much better offense last year, resulting in lesean mccoy appearing to be the better running back(they are at least similar based upon ray rice version 2012). Similar to peyton manning making every wide receiver he's ever played with look like a HOF-er, a great team can make an individual have better stats than he would have without them(not saying mccoy isn't good). The goal of a perfect player rating is to numerically describe his talent, not rate his production/ popularity.

One of the best posts I have read in this topic. Very well said. This is exactly what I am aiming for. Millions of factors lead to production, but a trait like agility, "is what it is".

[dk6663]

Where can I download this roster ??

[HC0023]

Quote: Originally Posted by dk6663

Where can I download this roster ??

Unfortunately you cant download it from the site .Believe me i am waiting for it on PS4 LOL

[dk6663]

How is it being done ?

[HC0023]

Quote: Originally Posted by dk6663

How is it being done ?

You can input the rosters in manually if you own a PS4 I believe charter has them on XBOX1

[DCEBB2001]

Quote: Originally Posted by HC0023

You can input the rosters in manually if you own a PS4 I believe charter has them on XBOX1

If I had a team of roster creators/editors, I could offer them for download. However, it takes so much time to properly edit the database, that I personally don't have time to do both.

[HC0023]

Quote: Originally Posted by DCEBB2001

If I had a team of roster creators/editors, I could offer them for download. However, it takes so much time to properly edit the database, that I personally don't have time to do both.

Well to make madden better for all us football maniacs out there in the words of rockys manage in the rocky movies Mickey WHAT ARE WE WAITING FOR LETS DO THIS