NHL 15: E3 Trailer and Details - Release Date Set For September 9th

[acreinha]

Good lord, people. I've been coming to this site for years and just made an account today simply to make a comment. It's unreal how pessimistic and critical people are in this forum. All the complaining that goes on about the NHL series and the "fans" that play them makes it sound as if this game is broken.

It seriously feels like people can simply not be pleased. Complaining about Joe Thorton not having the right beard or goalies not having the correct mask? Seriously guys, this game gets better every singe year (with small improvements I'll admit) but improvements nonetheless. People are wayyy too negative about a gameplay trailer that shows a brief glimpse of the product.

If you have complaints, which it's seems like most of you do, then don't pick it up. It's as simple as that. True fans of the series will appreciate the work that goes into the game and the great improvements the EA team added it.

[Aggies7]

Looks good to me. Would like to see more it real time instead of slow motion before I really make a judgement.

[SpectralThundr]

Quote: Originally Posted by acreinha

Good lord, people. I've been coming to this site for years and just made an account today simply to make a comment. It's unreal how pessimistic and critical people are in this forum. All the complaining that goes on about the NHL series and the "fans" that play them makes it sound as if this game is broken. It seriously feels like people can simply not be pleased. Complaining about Joe Thorton not having the right beard or goalies not having the correct mask? Seriously guys, this game gets better every singe year (with small improvements I'll admit) but improvements nonetheless. People are wayyy too negative about a gameplay trailer that shows a brief glimpse of the product. If you have complaints, which it's seems like most of you do, then don't pick it up. It's as simple as that. True fans of the series will appreciate the work that goes into the game and the great improvements the EA team added it.

Spot the F on.

[AdamJones113]

Quote: Originally Posted by acreinha

Good lord, people. I've been coming to this site for years and just made an account today simply to make a comment. It's unreal how pessimistic and critical people are in this forum. All the complaining that goes on about the NHL series and the "fans" that play them makes it sound as if this game is broken. It seriously feels like people can simply not be pleased. Complaining about Joe Thorton not having the right beard or goalies not having the correct mask? Seriously guys, this game gets better every singe year (with small improvements I'll admit) but improvements nonetheless. People are wayyy too negative about a gameplay trailer that shows a brief glimpse of the product. If you have complaints, which it's seems like most of you do, then don't pick it up. It's as simple as that. True fans of the series will appreciate the work that goes into the game and the great improvements the EA team added it.

I understand completely where you're coming from. I've been a big supporter of NHL 14, I've defended it on this site, I've played over 150 games in a dynasty. But EA is advertising this game like it's (to use a hockey metaphor) the next Rocket Richard—flashy, goal-scoring, and speedy. But it turns out more like Henri Richard—solid, assist machine, pocket rocket type. It's that not flashiness, not heroic final product that people don't feel live up to the billing.

Here's my take:

NHL 15 E3 Trailer Discussion


Damn does that look good. Looks very realistic, Subban's goal at the end had me wondering if that was real life. The dekes look pretty good, arenas look even better. Commentary sounds solid, but who knows whether that's real life or in-game. I'm not loving the new jersey physics: Gaborik's jersey and Tavares' jersey both look way to rigid. And poor Datsyuk just looks like he's constipated.

Let's compare with the 2014 trailer, focusing on dekes and the enforcer engine:



Skating looks a little worse besides for the Eberle clip, dekes look a bit thinner, but the hitting looks exactly the same. The fighting gets a lot more attention, and I figure EA hasn't changed it whatsoever. Knockout punches look the same.


Overall, the 2015 trailer looks a lot crisper and a little more realistic than the 2014 one. And that's fine, good in fact, if EA has the gameplay and game modes down. Let me quote something I said here on OS: "I will believe it all when they start making the game-play and game modes great. Graphics, no one will care as much if the game-play/modes are great. Everyone will care about graphics if they are not." And the graphics look fine. The game-play better be. There isn't enough of a discrepancy in the two trailers to make me feel like EA changed a ton in NHL 15.

Final Verdict: It looks great. I'll be the first to tell you that. What may be the most important thing for 360/PS3 users, however, happens in the first ten seconds: "All footage taken from XboxOne and PS4." Another coat of sparkly, shiny new paint. But when I look closely, I see the same goaltending animations from Josh Harding in 2014 and 2015, and in '15 he isn't losing his jockstrap to Datsyuk. (Why does EA love Hardng so much?) Goaltending hasn't been defaultly improved (sliders help).

What makes hockey great is the unpredictability. A rolling puck, a stick with not enough torque can change a goal into a whiff. And I think we're going to have to wait another year, at least, before EA gets that unpredictability.

[CT Pitbull]

looked like CGI to me

[spidertour02]

Guys, we've seen A MINUTE of the game, from angles that we'll never play the game from, not running live, edited to highlight certain aspects while ignoring others, intended to give a vague idea of what the graphics will look like. It's a little early to declare the game a bust and all the developers liars.

[bwiggy33]

Quote: Originally Posted by acreinha

It seriously feels like people can simply not be pleased. Seriously guys, this game gets better every singe year (with small improvements I'll admit) but improvements nonetheless. If you have complaints, which it's seems like most of you do, then don't pick it up. It's as simple as that. True fans of the series will appreciate the work that goes into the game and the great improvements the EA team added it.

I agree with you on two things. 1. People shouldn't nitpick over this trailer. 2. Most of the posts are negative about this game, including myself. That's for pretty good reason though most of the time.

However, this is an honest question and I really want you as well as anyone else to answer it. Since NHL 10 what are the big improvements they have made? The only one off the top of my head is skating. Other than that, changing the physics engine two or three times, and very small AI upgrades, it's all been stuff that isn't even relevant to NHL gameplay. Do you seriously think the new fighting engine, goalie fights, glass breaking, etc. really improve this game the amount it should? I guess I just don't see where the improvements are, so if you would, please list what has improved since NHL 10. I say NHL 10 only because that's the year that I think the series stopped it's improvements.

[SpectralThundr]

Quote: Originally Posted by bwiggy33

I agree with you on two things. 1. People shouldn't nitpick over this trailer. 2. Most of the posts are negative about this game, including myself. That's for pretty good reason though most of the time. However, this is an honest question and I really want you as well as anyone else to answer it. Since NHL 10 what are the big improvements they have made? The only one off the top of my head is skating. Other than that, changing the physics engine two or three times, and very small AI upgrades, it's all been stuff that isn't even relevant to NHL gameplay. Do you seriously think the new fighting engine, goalie fights, glass breaking, etc. really improve this game the amount it should? I guess I just don't see where the improvements are, so if you would, please list what has improved since NHL 10. I say NHL 10 only because that's the year that I think the series stopped it's improvements.

With the exception of AI and physics improvements, how much more like hockey does the game need to get before you'd be able to enjoy it?

I liked the new fighting engine myself, I thought it made the fights themselves more immersive and more in the player's control rather than just tapping a button trying to knock the other guy out.

Off the top of my head of improvements since 10, Skating, AI (though still not where it needs to be with neutral zone pressure) AI tender logic, physics, visuals, incidental contact. less sure fire money goals offline (again I don't play online can't judge there) HUT & Be a Pro for those that like those types of modes,That's just off the top of my head.

Do you play sports games to have fun or to pick apart every yearly iteration for not being a perfect representation of real life?