If NBA Live Has a Future, It Has to Look Radically Different

[Slater James]

Quote: Originally Posted by Boilerbuzz

And this "reclaim their place" talk baffles me. It screams of the EA arrogance that is so pervasive in their marketing. As if being the top brand is their entitlement. And some fans buy right into it. I think that's why they don't do **** with their games. They didn't deserve the status and they need to learn how to really earn it in ALL of their titles. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

You're conflating what I've said with this preconceived notion you state. You've misunderstood me.



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[shutdown10]

Quote: Originally Posted by El_Poopador

i was referring to fox sports. one of the greatest parts about the pc version of nba 2k is the modding community. plenty of different scorebugs (like tnt and fox sports) to replace the generic one that 2k uses. and again they dont even need an official license as 2k has done just fine without one. as far as commentary there are plenty of options out there. ea and 2k have a combined five commentators in their game. are you trying to tell me there are only five people who broadcast nba games? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ers#ESPN.2FABC theres a list of all the possible real life broadcasters.

I'm telling you that another company is not going to get into basketball with these two established companies already taking up most of the resources. Look what happen to Madden when NFL 2k bolstered their overall resources in that game. That lead to EA making that deal with the NFL to purchase their license to be the only football game on the market. If a company comes in and makes a generic NBA basketball game, then it will end up like Back breaker, which was a one and done because of very poor sales and no profit. Next a game company will not be able to use those ESPN commentators because they work for Espn. We are in a time where only two sports games from different companies can be allowed in a video game market. NBA live was gone for three years, but they were still under contract with all their licenses. I guarantee you if they would have called it quits three years ago, then another company would have emerged by now to compete with 2k with the void for another basketball game.

[ProfessaPackMan]

Quote: Originally Posted by WTF

I'll stand behind my "hyperbole" statement.

I respect it, bro. Stand by your beliefs.

Just know that it's not accurate at all unless you want to point out the things that are in this game that has not been in any Bball game in the last 10 years, which you probably won't but it's cool.

Like I said, I respect it. #dapsup

[Sundown]

Quote: Originally Posted by JoeDog10

The biggest problem I'm seeing after having spent a lot of time with game is the points in the paint. It's not always a problem, but I'd say maybe 3 out of every 5 games or so. Going back to the point you made about "hop step circus layups with Andrew Bynum", there are certain stretches of the game where you see that happening. And that's because you really can't "body up" someone in the post once they have the ball. So a lot of times, it results in an easy bucket for the CPU and it's usually an ugly animation too, LOL. I guess any video game is what you make of it. But, I do think Live plays a good game of single player basketball. It's far from perfect, but it's also not nearly as bad as so many people make it out to be. It's stopped me from playing 2K outside of human vs. human games.

That's one key thing I forgot in which Live bears no resemblance to real basketball. There's no physicality in the paint.

I understand that some games have enough good that one or two flaws shouldn't deter you from the game if you they can be managed. 2K happens to be that game for me and some of the issues WTF dislikes can be rectified with sliders.

I just can't see how Live is superior in enough ways (or any way) that matters-- it looks bad, it feels bad, its most vaunted feature (dribbling) is actually terribly implemented and feels primitive, and it's horrible inside the paint and not especially good anywhere else.

[Pared]

I played the demo again the night before last... And I still feel this article is quite on the mark.

Any type of good I can see in this game is me looking at what "potential" is there. I had the same eye when I was looking at Sony's title. There were some nice elements... but it does not belong "in the running" of being a solid, complete title in my mind. If this is a building block and someone told me three years from now the game will be better I would believe you. But as is....

[Boilerbuzz]

Quote: Originally Posted by El_Poopador

i was referring to fox sports. one of the greatest parts about the pc version of nba 2k is the modding community. plenty of different scorebugs (like tnt and fox sports) to replace the generic one that 2k uses. and again they dont even need an official license as 2k has done just fine without one. as far as commentary there are plenty of options out there. ea and 2k have a combined five commentators in their game. are you trying to tell me there are only five people who broadcast nba games? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ers#ESPN.2FABC theres a list of all the possible real life broadcasters.

Guys, Fox just carries the local rights. There is no national recognition for that license. Those games that are picked up, though, are branded NBA TV. So that would work. But, again, there is very little that is recognizable in that.


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[Boilerbuzz]

Quote: Originally Posted by JoeDog10

I'm done posting in this particular thread. I'm well aware that I shouldn't be enjoying this game. But I'll stick to the impressions thread where there are a handful of other people that are enjoying it.

You guys hurt the man's feelings or something?


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[Boilerbuzz]

Quote: Originally Posted by Slater James

What I mean is this, this game should be dead and its not (in terms of gamers giving a damn about its existence). And for reasons that are mostly born of the competition's varied incompetence. I'll hedge my next few statements and keep them as general as possible to avoid confusion.

Not true. EA, unfortunately has always had a loyal to sympathetic following. There are a lot of them. Even if the competition was flawless, there are still those people that would play Live.


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