If NBA Live Has a Future, It Has to Look Radically Different

[alexthegreat]

Quote: Originally Posted by Slater James

Live is really in a miraculous place if you think about it. This series should be stone dead. But the other game has somehow managed to keep gamers looking for an alternative. All EA has do is put out a solid game and they could actually force their way back into the conversation. The opportunity for them to reclaim their place is as open as its ever been. Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk

[shutdown10]

The only agenda I have on this forum is to make sure EA is not let off the hook anymore with poor efforts like this one. If they cannot make a sound basketball game, then allow another company to take their place in the basketball market to compete with the other company.

[Boilerbuzz]

Quote: Originally Posted by Slater James

Live is really in a miraculous place if you think about it. This series should be stone dead. But the other game has somehow managed to keep gamers looking for an alternative. All EA has do is put out a solid game and they could actually force their way back into the conversation. The opportunity for them to reclaim their place is as open as its ever been. Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk

Hit the wrong button. Do not like this post because I don't think it's true. "The other game" has pissed of many folks. But FEW of them see Live as an alternative. Those that do consider it quickly go back. But that is only a SMALL number of "hardcore" users and their parrots. People need to realize how small an audience forum posters represent. Sad, but true.

Also, EA has to do much more than just a "solid" game. People act like a few weeks of a rough next gen launch, which is VERY common, equates to multiple years of underachievement, to downright no release at all from the Live series. Joe Schmoe does not trust EA, let alone the Live franchise.

And this "reclaim their place" talk baffles me. It screams of the EA arrogance that is so pervasive in their marketing. As if being the top brand is their entitlement. And some fans buy right into it. I think that's why they don't do **** with their games. They didn't deserve the status and they need to learn how to really earn it in ALL of their titles.


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[El_Poopador]

Quote: Originally Posted by shutdown10

The only agenda I have on this forum is to make sure EA is not let off the hook anymore with poor efforts like this one. If they cannot make a sound basketball game, then allow another company to take their place in the basketball market to compete with the other company.

there is nothing stopping any other company from making a basketball game so that doesnt really make any sense.

[Boilerbuzz]

Quote: Originally Posted by El_Poopador

there is nothing stopping any other company from making a basketball game so that doesnt really make any sense.

Uh... Yes there is. It's called business sense. It's FAR to expensive to make a game of this scope this day and age. And with the market dominated as it is, good luck making any of that money back. It's easy to sit there and say it's easy to do something if your money and livelihood isn't on the line, huh.


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[blackceasar]

Quote: Originally Posted by KG

I don't understand why they released a demo without Synergy AND Automotion? Seems like self-sabotage. It's one thing to release a demo that has a few bugs, it's another thing to release it w/o major gameplay features.

It's called Board Members and Share Holders and Bonuses and Stock Options.

The people at the top don't really understand the business of video games. They understand the business of making money. They wanted the demo out to get people pumped about the game that came out at launch. Yes I know you have a point with saying the demo got no one pumped but what I'm saying is the people who are pushing these dates are NOT the people developing the game, which is what happens when a publisher gets TOO BIG and gets really top heavy with people with MBA's and have never even probably had a genuine interest in the video game market at all. To them EA and EA Sports is just a company they are a part of. They could work there, or work for Apply, or Sony, or Dyson Vacum Cleaners, or Whirlpool, you get the trend. Its not about the product for them, its about the business and their MBA's give blinds them to the fact that your product affects your business.

[blackceasar]

Quote: Originally Posted by Slater James

Live is really in a miraculous place if you think about it. This series should be stone dead. But the other game has somehow managed to keep gamers looking for an alternative. All EA has do is put out a solid game and they could actually force their way back into the conversation. The opportunity for them to reclaim their place is as open as its ever been. Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk

This SOUNDS GOOD in PRINCIPLE. But the reality is that if they put out a good game and take advantage of the opening 2k left (this year) it wouldnt be because of how EA treats their Live franchise.. it would be in spite of how EA treats their live franchise.

Truth is, the reason why the Live franchise has been OUT of the conversation are the same reasons why they wont get back IN the conversation. It doesnt take 2k to put out a buggy broken basketball game (this year) for Live to actually do well. All Live needs to do is do Live Well and Live will DO WELL. Make sense? What I'm getting at is it's probably not the devs and the soldiers working on the game that have to change first.. the first change has to start at the top, well above the pay grade of the people working 80 hours a week there.

And I'm not sure what you mean by "miraculous" place... EA has a TON of money.. enough to buy an NFL License.. its not like bad sales of live (or that Elite 11) travesty would stop them from making a game. They have money and resources to publish Live every year regardless of what happens with the "other game".

You are romanticising something that just doesnt need it.

[El_Poopador]

Quote: Originally Posted by Boilerbuzz

Uh... Yes there is. It's called business sense. It's FAR to expensive to make a game of this scope this day and age. And with the market dominated as it is, good luck making any of that money back. It's easy to sit there and say it's easy to do something if your money and livelihood isn't on the line, huh. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

i was speaking in context of the post i quoted.

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The only agenda I have on this forum is to make sure EA is not let off the hook anymore with poor efforts like this one. If they cannot make a sound basketball game, then allow another company to take their place in the basketball market to compete with the other company.

let me rephrase my reply to that:

there is nothing that ea is doing that would prevent any other company from making a basketball game.