If NBA Live Has a Future, It Has to Look Radically Different

[WTF]

I disagree, but in the end, you're happy one way, I'm happy the other. I see a TON of ID type of AI here, you possibly not so much.

I can play the other game all I want, I just can't play my old saves. I won't restart again, nor would I want to at the moment. But regardless, we have two options. I guess I will start my own OS NBA Live 14 Veterans League, and be the only one playing

[King_B_Mack]

I'm sorry, no disrespect intended, but there is a little copping out going on. I get the point, if you're happy with what you're playing then that's all that matters for you. Don't disagree with that at all. You're happy, cool. But this "I see great AI here, you don't" narrative is just silly. This isn't a subjective matter. Either the AI responds like NBA players should or it doesn't. Either you know what you're looking at and he doesn't or vice versa. This is like someone backing out of arguing against a fact by saying it's their opinion that the fact is wrong.

[23]

Too generic to be anything like ID

But like I said for a game that did sim much better got canned whats the end for this

Galaxy Note 2

[WTF]

Go back through the past umpteen pages King... I've supported my argument. I'm seeing stuff that SHOULD have been in NBA games but wasn't for the past 10 years. Guys are hitting their spots, just like in the NBA. I'm not getting some crazy *** plays just because the guy is "supposed" to get his stats. They're executing.

I'm tired of arguing it against people who don't see it. I see it, several others who are retrying the game, or picking it up for the first time, are seeing it. Some aren't. I can't explain it. You can't explain it. We all perceive things differently, and apparently that's happening here and with this game.

It wasn't good initially. I'll concede that. It wasn't NBA basketball, and it was very little of basketball period to begin with. But there have been serious improvements that make this game a game that I want to play.

No cop out, no backing out of an argument, but I have a real life, and I don't have time to continue the back and forth. I want to play the game. I want to have time with my wife and kids after work, alongside playing a game without having to explain why I prefer it.

It is a subjective matter. In the right hands, the game plays really well. Like several others have posted in the impressions thread, the game looks better once you learn the controls. I can't sit here and type out each possession of a game to tell you all what I'm seeing.

It'd be a cop out to say, "yeah, I'm not seeing the AI either..." Even though I obviously am. It's perception. Perception is reality. Different strokes for different folks. I guess the old adage is true

[WTF]

Quote: Originally Posted by 23

Too generic to be anything like ID But like I said for a gane that did sim much better got canned whats the end for this Galaxy Note 2

Okay Dre. Your perception. I shall disagree in private.

[23]

Quote: Originally Posted by WTF

Okay Dre. Your perception. I shall disagree in private.

Im trying hard to stick to the thread op not really argue how I feel about this game. You and I have plenty of bball knowledge enough to go over nuances but what im continually pointing out is not what you do or don't like about this game or what you do or dont see..in this thread anyway.

On its own merit alot of stuff is recycled some could be argued the same better and some worse than inthe past and in that case if this is the best they can do I dont see it lasting long. For technology advances and what we are on now this is a poor showing overall and for the most part the excuses have hit an all time high.

If the subject gets too far off of the subject I'm out of the convo



Galaxy Note 2

[Pared]

Ok, I have to know: what are you seeing here that has not been done in basketball games in the past 10 years?

I can't help but take away the hyperbole from such a statement. If the game was doing this to such a great degree more people would be seeing it. Not just the randoms that join OS and disappear; You're seeing long time bball video game vets scratching their head at these types of praises.

I helped where I could in bringing out the best of Live back 2005. I hated myself for not buying an Xbox just for ID. This title isn't anywhere close to that level from what I've seen.

I'm still just trying to see what you're seeing, that's all. I'm skeptical but what you're praising I'm pretty sure was in Live '10. Nothing "revolutionary" as far as I can tell.

[WTF]

Fluid movement during possessions. AI that branches and feels like an opponent. Possessions that branch when they break down. Graphics. Lol.