NBA Live 14 Gameplay Trailer

[Chalky White]

Quote: Originally Posted by bigeastbumrush

The only advantages they ever used to have was a fun factor and player control. That's it. You can't really even give them that because it's been 4 years. But to me, 2K has taken so many steps to improve their product since 2011 that it's not even comparing basketball to basketball anymore.

2k11 was probably better than 2k14. 13-14 weren't 2k's best efforts imo.

[Artur]

This trailer looking very ugly for me! It's like EA devs suddenly awaken after first 2k next gen trailer and start doing something quickly over old and poor engine.

[TheBuddyHobbs]

Quote: Originally Posted by Chalky White

I already provided my impressions. If I wanted to be as critical of 2k as OS is to Live: - LeBron was up way too high for a standard block, way too high. Couple of feet too high. - Seems to still be a force field between collisions. Kobe sliding Rose back in air. - Hardens beard went through his jersey. - Kobe's face looks a bit off to me. Looks a bit wide and undefined in the chin/jaw. - They dont have the proportions right on any of the faces if you look at it from a 45 degree angle, they look incredibly chubby. Hands look like sausages. - Chris Kaman's beard is too dark and doesn't represent his current look. He doesn't even look like Chris Kaman - Xavier Henry's model isn't replicated in real life - Derek Fisher's face looks like the current gen just used for trailer purposes - Kobe Bryant's face has a lot of discoloration and some of his face features need more tweaking like his jaw and nose - Russell Westbrook also has some issues with his face and head - Kevin Durant needs a little more tweaking on the face - Lebron's face is a bit chubby - Udonis Haslem's face needs tweaking - Nick Young's face needs tweaking And they showed us very little to no actual 5v5 gameplay. Mostly game stoppages such as intros, free throws, celebrations, etc.

Cool, now where is your Live complaint list? If your 2k complaint list is that long I couldn't imagine how long Live's would be. It's okay to defend a game, but if your going to be critical of one at least be fair and do the same for both. It shows bias IMO.

[Dogslax41]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

Thats not fair. You are discrediting 2k for having zoomed in action shots but ignoring the fact that Live did the same thing. There are only two shots in the Live trailer that zoom out to a playable view and neither of them are more than a half a second long.

You're wasting your keystrokes. Nothing you say will make a difference. I don't think he can see things from anyone's perspective but his, as evident by the fact that he doesn't understand calling a majority of the people posting in this thread sheep, passive aggressive or not, was insulting.

[ruLEX$$]

Not bad looking. I really didn't wanna compare the 2 games but I'm finding it hard not to. So I'm just going to say not bad.

One thing I did like was the sneakers. I think the fit the player models perfectly. The 2k shoes looked a little too bulky not sleek and fitting.

Oh and melo's animation was a niiiice touch

[bigeastbumrush]

Quote: Originally Posted by GJC1213

So far we have seen zero real time game play videos from either game. I am not a fanboy for either game. I am a basketball fan that would love a great, new experience with my basketball gaming. I hope both companies come through with a great effort and push each other for the entire run or this new gen of hardware. The Live trailer is certainly not as pretty as the 2k one but is doesn't look all that bad. I for one cannot make an informed enough decision based on what we have seen. The Nash trailer was disappointing but this one was ok. Say what you will, at least Live showed some real time movement, not just a slow motion, sizzle trailer. Everyone on these boards, on IGN, around the internet in general is jocking the 2k trailer as the greatest thing since sliced bread. I may be alone on this but i just don't see what is so mind blowing about it. Before i get flamed, let me say that I have bought every single 2k game since Dreamcast on day one. I think its a fine series and have no doubt that 2k14 next gen will be great. I just don't see much from that trailer. As another post said, its mostly player intros, free throw routines and celebrations with a few open court dunks and a block from behind thrown in. The level of detail is astounding but the majority of in game play wont show it all. Live showed a lot more player movement and animation and overall it looks decent. Will it play better than 2k? Likely not but it is far from an embarrassment, for now. Still waiting on actual footage of the game being played. I don't know how people can worship the 2k trailer and not think Live is at least worth a try on gamefly.

No reason anyone should flame you. You hit the nail on the head man.

It's like this....I'm not going to sit at home and watch a TV commercial for a shiny new car and cut a check for it without even seeing it in action. Not some souped up commercial to make it look great. Heck, that car company may have a better marketing department than it's competitor but the car may drive like crap.

But these guys are sitting back just laughing. Less than 30 days before launch and you're showing us angles? Man, Precious can look good in a cropped pic with a filter put on it.

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

We will have 5 on 5 from both games in the next two weeks.

I hear you man. See above.

These dudes are laughing though. They're counting the preorders & forecasts in like, "Suckers!" as they prepare their Day 1 patches to push to Sony & MS.

[scottyp180]

Quote: Originally Posted by Behindshadows

This will be a direct post of opinion, if you don't agree! You don't have to quote my post a million times with your rebuttals!!! People hated Elite 11 and hate Live 13 because both of them were poo and using the same engine. NBA Live 10 was the last good Live game, and we all complained that Elite and 13 weren't built off that engine and they should have just upgraded from Live 10. Well looks like in 14 that's exactly what they did, it's Live 10 with a lot of touch up and visual improvements. Yeah the dribbling mechanic is cool and all, but Live 10 controls were never broken. I think where the disappointment in this footage and all the other footage, is that it's a 10% improvement from current gen basketball games and of Live 10. When Live series went from Xbox Original to the Xbox 360, the games were 100% two different games. This is where the problem lies with this trailer and all the pictures they keep posting. It's like 10% different 5% graphics and 5% controls, oh I'm sorry bouncetek (GTFO) so tired of them naming all their engines and features all these weird *** names and analogies, when in motion looks like the same **** another toilet. I for one in the Live community wanted this game to be a much different game going into the PS4 and Xbox One era. Looks like they should have rebuilt from scratch, like they lied and said they did. Listening to fans 4 games too late to build off Live 10 isn't worth the time and effort we ask for it 4 years ago. And to give me that garbage about a 3 year plan, if it's building off this same graphics engine and gameplay engine...Then it will be the same 3 years in Live 15,16,17, etc. I'm not going to say I'm disappointed completely, because the faces looked improved and details were better, but the whole time I watched this video, all I saw was what Live 11 and Live 12 should have been on current gen. This should have been a Xbox 360, and PS3 game! Because with the capabilities of the Next Gen consoles this is visually mediocre at best. It might be pretty on the inside, but it's so average on the outside..

I agree with everything you said except for your skeptism for the 3 year plan, which workes perfectly for the nhl series. Like you said elite and live 13 departed from the live 10 formula and the result was disasterous. Now that they look to be back to something similar to live 10, albeit more improved, I think they are in position to build on this game and develop a winning game.

I find it hard to believe that some people think these games aren't far off graphically. Imo 2k looks years ahead of live in terms of visuals. However these games do have a distinctly different art style. I think 2k goes for a more realistic "you are there" approach while live goes for a little less realistic approach and a sense that this is what you see when watch on tv not what you see whe you are in the arena. Just my personal opinion and I will admit thati did a poor job describimg the art styles lol.

[Chalky White]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

Thats not fair. You are discrediting 2k for having zoomed in action shots but ignoring the fact that Live did the same thing. There are only two shots in the Live trailer that zoom out to a playable view and neither of them are more than a half a second long.

Live isn't zoomed nearly to the same degree, I can still make out actual gameplay sequences with the Live trailer. You get players isolating and breaking defenders down of the dribble as opposed to zoomed, slow motion captures of Kobe walking to the bench.