Madden NFL 25 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions (360, PS3)

[ghettogeeksta]

Quote: Originally Posted by Armor & Sword

I have had to do this will all Madden games. Every single one since 1991. It's nothing new. It's Madden.....love it or hate it. I choose to make the best of it and have fun.....and having some house rules and playing sim ball makes the game very playable and a way to have a virtual franchise. It's not that bad. Do I want it on the same level as my beloved The Show or NBA 2K11? Heck yes. But until then if I want to play NFL console football......this is it. So I played 4 games today. With my house rules and slider adjustments....this game has been a pure blast......I can't wait for 8-27. I will say this.....playing defense is very stale. If you want a pass rush.......don't try to control a de. Let the CPU and the player ratings take care of it. It is a legacy issue this gen. I just play as a LB pretty much most of the time I choose a de/dt when I think a running play is coming. By employing the no switch rule on defense you will get simulation like results...and Great play results from the CPU. If I wanted to I could crush the CPU....we all can. I choose to find ways to enjoy the game. It's a choice you make. I choose enjoyment, fun, and creating my own virtual NFL Universe. It is what it is....so I make the best of it and enjoy the game. I have been doing workarounds for all kinds of sports games for decades....this is nothing new. Only a few sports games have truly been special....I am talking the cream of the crop. I can count them on 6-7 fingers. I am talking simulation like controls, player movement, AI, deep interface and modes. It's not easy to achieve greatness. Very few sports games can truly claim that title. Madden has done it once. My hope is M25 replaces Madden 2005 as the pinnacle....I think it has a shot if all the bugs were ironed out in Connected Franchise mentioned above. And for Madden fans I think most of us are digging this demo....I am talking pre PS2 Madden fans. Maybe I am getting old....but I appreciate how advanced sports games have become since my 2600 days....and keeping notebooks upon notebooks of stats for Bases Loaded 2 on NES.

I refuse to sale my sole and lower my standards, I rather not buy the game. And this is coming for a guy in which Madden was my favorite game last gen, I bought every single one of them on PS2 and this gen Ive (unfortunately) only bought 3 of them.
Madden 25 seems like it can be a half-way decent/toleratable game with some slider adjustments. So Ill get the season pass, rent it on day one and see how I like it before i decide if I will buy it.

[Armor and Sword]

Quote: Originally Posted by ghettogeeksta

I refuse to sale my sole and lower my standards, I rather not buy the game. And this is coming for a guy in which Madden was my favorite game last gen, I bought every single one of them on PS2 and this gen Ive (unfortunately) only bought 3 of them. Madden 25 seems like it can be a half-way decent/toleratable game with some slider adjustments. So Ill get the season pass, rent it on day one and see how I like it before i decide if I will buy it.

I can totally respect that. And Madden was also by far my favorite game last gen as well.

[celtics6]

I choose not to enjoy it lol. House rules don't make the game any different when you know you can get 4 yards every play just by running the ball. Playing against other people is fun with madden but if i'm going to play the cpu i'll play the show. Sliders don't fix these issues either. They just unbalance the game in some way. There are more fun things to do then wasting time trying to get this game to work right.

This game is good for playing quick games online and hoping you don't run into too much cheese. That's about it. There are too many AI problems to fix simply with house rules.

[Armor and Sword]

Quote: Originally Posted by celtics6

I choose not to enjoy it lol. House rules don't make the game any different when you know you can get 4 yards every play just by running the ball. Playing against other people is fun with madden but if i'm going to play the cpu i'll play the show. Sliders don't fix these issues either. They just unbalance the game in some way. There are more fun things to do then wasting time trying to get this game to work right. This game is good for playing quick games online and hoping you don't run into too much cheese. That's about it. There are too many AI problems to fix simply with house rules.

Playing against humans is where Madden shines the brightest and why it sells millions of copies. I love playing good solid sim like games against guys who don't cheese. Really fun indeed.

In 13 yeah...tons of garbage and AI problems....not 12 though. It was and is a solid game.

This demo has given me a ton of hope.

August 27th we find out if we have a keeper.

[Seth79]

Quote: Originally Posted by Only1LT

I hate adding my $0.02 on issues (huge lie), but I have a huge problem with sliders. When I say I have an issue with them, I don't mean those that use them or those that make recommendations for using them. You are doing what you have to do to enjoy the game, and you are trying to enable your fellow OSers to get the most out of the game as well. I have 0 issue with that, and they should be applauded for it. The issue I have is with the devs. I know that sim is subjective, and that people can play the exact same game for totally different reasons, so I have sympathy for the challenges that the devs face with trying to come up with a please all. I'm sorry though, but what is being suggested goes far beyond challenging mass market appeal decisions. I've seen in this thread among others, people suggesting that specific settings be lowered to 5 for one, 20 for others, still 0 for others. Again, I don't take issue with the suggestions or the offered help at all. It's not about that, but OMG, when these sliders are on a scale of 0-100, and many default to 50, the idea that you need to set some to 5, or worse yet 0, speaks to a serious problem. At least to me. If you had to adjust some things from, say a default of 60, down to a 52 to get the game to play in the ball park of most people's view of a sim game, I'd say that's reasonable. To go from 50 to 5 or 0 says to me one of 2 things: 1- The people making this game don't even have a whiff of understanding of what sim is, or 2- The game is designed with the intended purpose of not playing like a sim. I don't know about anyone else, but to me, regardless of whether the answer is 1 or 2, that doesn't instill much confidence for this title, in the near, or even distant future.

I agree completely! The number of people on this forum saying that the sliders were broken last year, should have caused the developers to really focus on this issue. I can't for the life of me get a challenging game if I use hot routes and precision passing. Now with the "running improvements" the game is horribly easy. Wouldn't it be awesome to run 5 yards and feel good about it.

[Sturzinator]

Quote: Originally Posted by Armor & Sword

I pray that is not the case. I am staying positive until I have concrete reason not to be. All of that from M13 was absolutely true and why it was IMO one of the very worst Maddens I have ever purchased. I have to believe most if not all of those bugs were ironed out for M25.

What, can you please explain, gives you the belief that this is the case?

A gut feeling? Blind faith?

I am just wondering if you have been privy to some information that the rest of us have not yet discovered. Given EA's track record over the past decade, it's extremely hard to imagine they've even removed a small wrinkle let alone "ironed out" the whole mess.

You will recall that EA claimed CCM would play the same as "play now" after releasing one of their many useless patches for M13, and we all know how that turned out.

[Armor and Sword]

Quote: Originally Posted by Sturzinator

What, can you please explain, gives you the belief that this is the case? A gut feeling? Blind faith? I am just wondering if you have been privy to some information that the rest of us have not yet discovered. Given EA's track record over the past decade, it's extremely hard to imagine they've even removed a small wrinkle let alone "ironed out" the whole mess.

Maybe because I have gotten so much mileage out of Madden 12 which was made the year before. And I enjoyed Madden 10 as well.

Madden 13 was a giant Beta for this years game. At least that is how it seems as this demo has been a blast to play. I think EA heard loud and clear the mess that was connected careers and focused on cleaning all that up. Even though they Eliminated some sliders.....the ones we have seem to me at least to actually work. I am getting highly enjoyable games thus far.

I am not as hard on Tiburon as others around here. Last year....was bad....really bad. Thus far IMO this demo has demonstrated that the games engine has been tuned significantly. It was a hot mess on M13. Unplayable IMO.

It has done a 180 for me on M25. Now the proof is in the pudding. The retail copy August 27th will hopefully prove to me they fixed franchise and how the CPU plays as opposed to play now. I don't play in play now mode. I buy this game to play offline and this year online franchise (going to give it a go in a mature sim league as it looks like a great time).

No I have no inside information. Just going on what this demo has shown me thus far....that's why they release them right?

[SECElit3]

Quote: Originally Posted by SageInfinite

After playing the Madden demo, I couldn't enjoy NCAA as much for some reason. IDK what it is.

It's because this game is fun! WOW, I am having a great time with this demo!