NBA 2K14 Features New Blocking System, Includes the Ability to Block Dunks

[Jrocc23]

Quote: Originally Posted by RyanFitzmagic

Who said it was impossible? I said in the game it should be impossible. A lot of things that NBA players do in real life aren't possible in 2K. Like I said, let Ginobili or somebody block a Dwight Howard dunk, and see if people don't start girlin and stuff.

I guess you'll never get it. I'm confident 2K is smart enough to not make it that way.


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[Sundown]

Quote: Originally Posted by RyanFitzmagic

Who said it was impossible? I said in the game it should be impossible. A lot of things that NBA players do in real life aren't possible in 2K. Like I said, let Ginobili or somebody block a Dwight Howard dunk, and see if people don't start girlin and stuff.

If the block system was properly implemented, this wouldn't happen in the first place, or would be extremely rare.

You don't need the binary hack you're proposing that leads to more potential problems.

Harrison Barnes is definitely worthy of the Posterizer sig. He had several last year, including one that was at the top of the NBA dunk ladder (and should have stayed there). Yet, I remember him being blocked on an attempt by a big like Splitter.

Impossible-to-block-on-off-Posterizer-Eraser-hack is a terrible idea. Let it go. A well-tuned block system that Posterizer/Eraser modifies is a much better solution.

[mango_prom]

Quote: Originally Posted by Sundown

If the block system was properly implemented, this wouldn't happen in the first place, or would be extremely rare. You don't need the binary hack you're proposing that leads to more potential problems. Harrison Barnes is definitely worthy of the Posterizer sig. He had several last year, including one that was at the top of the NBA dunk ladder (and should have stayed there). Yet, I remember him being blocked on an attempt by a big like Splitter. Impossible-to-block-on-off-Posterizer-Eraser-hack is a terrible idea. Let it go. A well-tuned block system that Posterizer/Eraser modifies is a much better solution.

Again, why? What's the benefit you can't achieve with block/dunk ratings, too?

[Sundown]

Quote: Originally Posted by mango_prom

Again, why? What's the benefit you can't achieve with block/dunk ratings, too?

Again, like Da Czar said, Posterizer/Eraser give momentum boosts that normal ratings don't. I also like that just because someone has a high dunk rating, it doesn't mean he tends to dunk ON people, so high dunk can be used for dunk style and the ease with which they trigger.

There are flashy dunkers that don't dunk that much on people. And there are guys who posterize all the time but whose dunks aren't *that* flashy or difficult (Harrison Barnes for instance).

I'm fine with a new contact dunks rating and for Posterizer to only be for the momentum boosts certain guys with reputations get. I'm for anything that adds more nuance and aren't video-gamey on-off ratings.

Quote: Originally Posted by RyanFitzmagic

But then y'all tryin to say that a rock-paper-scissors system is a terrible idea? FOH.

What you're proposing isn't a rock-papers-scissors system. There's no circularity in the winner-loser relationships.

What you're actually proposing is for Posterizers and Erasers to be scissors and everyone else be paper.

[mango_prom]

Quote: Originally Posted by Sundown

Again, like Da Czar said, Posterizer/Eraser give momentum boosts that normal ratings don't.

Yeah, was referring to the sig skills modifying the block system thing. Momentum boosts would be fine for me if we can turn then off if we want to. Hell, in FIFA 98 you could turn the AI catch up logic off if you want to. What is 2k stopping from that?

[Sundown]

Quote: Originally Posted by mango_prom

Yeah, was referring to the sig skills modifying the block system thing. Momentum boosts would be fine for me if we can turn then off if we want to. Hell, in FIFA 98 you could turn the AI catch up logic off if you want to. What is 2k stopping from that?

I do like decoupling dunk-ons from dunk ratings though. Maybe it should be a tendency.

[mango_prom]

Quote: Originally Posted by Sundown

I do like decoupling dunk-ons from dunk ratings though. Maybe it should be a tendency.

I like that. Something like a "finish strong" tendency, tied to specific dunk packages maybe.

[RyanFitzmagic]

Quote: Originally Posted by Jrocc23

I guess you'll never get it. I'm confident 2K is smart enough to not make it that way.

People complain about worse stuff in 2K13. The physics, certain "cheese exploits," horrible violation calls by the in-game referees, etc.

Come on, man. You have to know that 2K's default sliders, which most people play on, are not great. So people who play online are gonna have a whole bunch of BS happen, and I wouldn't put it past them to make the blocking overpowered this year. That's why I suggested this.

Quote: Originally Posted by Sundown

Harrison Barnes is definitely worthy of the Posterizer sig. He had several last year, including one that was at the top of the NBA dunk ladder (and should have stayed there). Yet, I remember him being blocked on an attempt by a big like Splitter.

Barnes definitely does not deserve Posterizer. Posterizers are players who dunk on people REGULARLY. He didn't even dunk period once a game.

Like I said, there's maybe three or four true Posterizers in the NBA today, unless I forgot someone. It's not gonna (or it shouldn't) be given out like free candy.

Quote: Originally Posted by Sundown

And there are guys who posterize all the time but whose dunks aren't *that* flashy or difficult (Harrison Barnes for instance).

Dude, stop. Barnes did not posterize people "all the time" in 2013.

Quote: Originally Posted by Sundown

What you're actually proposing is for Posterizers and Erasers to be scissors and everyone else be paper.

That doesn't make sense, because most other sig skills have nothing to do with Posterizer or Eraser.

Quote: Originally Posted by mango_prom

I like that. Something like a "finish strong" tendency, tied to specific dunk packages maybe.

There IS an "Attempt Dunk" tendency. I gave Durant like a 90, whereas I gave LeBron around 75 I think.