Madden NFL 25 Presentation Details, New Sideline Reporter Added (Name Not Revealed)

[jpdavis82]

Quote: Originally Posted by KANE699

I'm just going to put this as simple as I can, and you'll just have to trust me that coming from personal experience and what I know from my tenure that what I am about to say is fact. Just because they write something in a blog or mention something over twitter or even via a video, does not mean that what you are hearing is the truth. I have seen it first hand and already seen it occur for Madden 25. It's not pretty and I don't love that it happens but there is nothing I could nor can I do now about it, at this point as far as Madden goes you are going to have to see everything with your own eyes to make a real judgment because I can promise that you absolutely can not expect the information you are given to necessarily be true. They are not obligated to prove anything to the fans either, so it just tough cookies when it comes to this matter.

What have they said about Madden 25 that wasn't true?

[KANE699]

This actually goes well beyond vagueness.

[RGiles36]

Quote: Originally Posted by jpdavis82

Does this happen to you during a play now,MUT, or CCM game? I was referring to solo challenge games in MUT, where it doesn't happen for me,so I wonder if it's a CCM bug.

It's not a CCM bug. It's a Tiburon-has-disregarded-offline AI-for-years bug.

Quote: Originally Posted by jpdavis82

Yes you guys can be skeptical but the idea that they are making minimal improvements to M25 current gen because they are focusing on next gen is at best laughable. 7 more days till you guys see for yourselves.

I'm getting the impression that if you haven't enjoyed Madden the last few years, Madden 25 on current gen won't be the game for you either. I don't think M25 (again on current gen) is going to turn pessimists into believers.

Even w/ the footplanting that's been touted -- let's examine what we know: there's an Infinity engine coming that controls agility, locomotion, etc for next gen. So do you really think Tiburon poured a lot of resources into this year's footplanting knowing the technology was already in place for next gen?

I expect improved footplanting, but hardly overhauled. Ditto blocking. So for those reasons, I don't think what we see for current gen next wk is going to look largely different than we've been accustomed to the last few years.

[jpdavis82]

Quote: Originally Posted by RGiles36

It's not a CCM bug. It's a Tiburon-has-disregarded-offline AI-for-years bug. I'm getting the impression that if you haven't enjoyed Madden the last few years, Madden 25 on current gen won't be the game for you either. I don't think M25 (again on current gen) is going to turn pessimists into believers. Even w/ the footplanting that's been touted -- let's examine what we know: there's an Infinity engine coming that controls agility, locomotion, etc for next gen. So do you really think Tiburon poured a lot of resources into this year's footplanting knowing the technology was already in place for next gen? I expect improved footplanting, but hardly overhauled. Ditto blocking. So for those reasons, I don't think what we see for current gen next wk is going to look largely different than we've been accustomed to the last few years.

Can you stop taking every one of my quotes and using them against me please? Thank you

[KANE699]

Quote: Originally Posted by jpdavis82

What have they said about Madden 25 that wasn't true?

Remember in Madden 13 that the dev team said they had been working with Nike for months prior to get all of the uniform stuff correct?

This was false.


As for Madden 25, they did not work with Nike to make the uniforms for relocated teams. This is just not a true statement.


I like the gaming industry a lot and feel pretty burned about the past but I don't want people to sit there and believe flat out lies.

That said I will not ruin my reputation or chances elsewhere in the industry by explaining more or just ripping on the company I worked for because there are a lot of good things I did get to do while I was there and there are good people in that company that do want to make the game better.

[californ14]

Obviously need to play M25 but I am thinking that this new improved ball carrier foot planting is stuff already in the game; they just set new triggers for the animations so you plant like doing a side step instead of swerving...No physics engine needed....

Also, the ball carrier avoidance move to sort of jump or step back as someone is coming from the side, I believe as a runner you could do that in M12 or maybe M10 or 11; you just had to pull down on the right analog stick..Didn't seem to work well as far as I can recall....

[Big FN Deal]

Quote: Originally Posted by KANE699

I'm just going to put this as simple as I can, and you'll just have to trust me that coming from personal experience and what I know from my tenure that what I am about to say is fact. Just because they write something in a blog or mention something over twitter or even via a video, does not mean that what you are hearing is the truth. I have seen it first hand and already seen it occur for Madden 25. It's not pretty and I don't love that it happens but there is nothing I could nor can I do now about it, at this point as far as Madden goes you are going to have to see everything with your own eyes to make a real judgment because I can promise that you absolutely can not expect the information you are given to necessarily be true. They are not obligated to prove anything to the fans either, so it just tough cookies when it comes to this matter.

This seems to echo AJ/Adembroski's comment on Twitter about "you guys are lied to so much", appreciate the candor Kane. It just seems so pointless for them to bs anyone because those of us that are paying attention see things don't add up in-game and those who aren't, don't really care what's said anyway.

I look forward to the day I don't have to deal with EA Tiburon to play a NFL football game. They have somehow managed to turn football gaming, which I have enjoyed immensely since "10 yard Fight" at the arcade, into politics. Wish we could vote about it, lol.

[jpdavis82]

Quote: Originally Posted by californ14

Obviously need to play M25 but I am thinking that this new improved ball carrier foot planting is stuff already in the game; they just set new triggers for the animations so you plant like doing a side step instead of swerving...No physics engine needed.... Also, the ball carrier avoidance move to sort of jump or step back as someone is coming from the side, I believe as a runner you could do that in M12 or maybe M10 or 11; you just had to pull down on the right analog stick..Didn't seem to work well as far as I can recall....

The contextual awareness is where they put their hand on their teammates back, that was not in previous games.