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Old 09-17-2012, 11:25 AM   #265
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I got a response from the FIFA dev... he said he prefers slow speed (I said default was too fast) and the pass power feels better in the full game (I mentioned manual passes specifically). Closed by saying they did some tuning since the demo. Did not mention defense at all in his quick reply, but I'll try to continue the conversation...

I'm intrigued by the lower marking is better discussion... I mentioned before how I had wild high-scoring games when I went above 70-75 marking in FIFA12. I chalked it up to defenders focusing too much on marking individuals and getting pulled out of position. I never even thought to try it with lower settings, but if it works, that would make me feel a lot better about getting a few years out of career mode.

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Old 09-17-2012, 01:42 PM   #266
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I got a response from the FIFA dev... he said he prefers slow speed (I said default was too fast) and the pass power feels better in the full game (I mentioned manual passes specifically). Closed by saying they did some tuning since the demo. Did not mention defense at all in his quick reply, but I'll try to continue the conversation...

I'm intrigued by the lower marking is better discussion... I mentioned before how I had wild high-scoring games when I went above 70-75 marking in FIFA12. I chalked it up to defenders focusing too much on marking individuals and getting pulled out of position. I never even thought to try it with lower settings, but if it works, that would make me feel a lot better about getting a few years out of career mode.
I'll have to explore this tonight in the demo and on Friday once the game comes out on Season Ticket. What you guys are saying might be true that by putting the marking slider at 100 makes the AI overplay... still odd and still is an area that deserves a lot of attention.
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Old 09-17-2012, 01:59 PM   #267
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I'll have to explore this tonight in the demo and on Friday once the game comes out on Season Ticket. What you guys are saying might be true that by putting the marking slider at 100 makes the AI overplay... still odd and still is an area that deserves a lot of attention.
There's definitely ways to tighten up the defense, using a combination of the speed(spring and acc), marking and line setting sliders. I do think when you jack the marking slider up too high players tend to over commit, allowing for huge gaps but I at least didn't see lower marking numbers equal tighter marking. I got the best results by upping the marking slider slightly(less than 10-12 clicks), lowering speed(42/45 for spr and acc) and shrinking the lines(40-45-49 for H-L-W). Although these settings are by no means perfect, they show what's possible with more slider tuning.
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Old 09-17-2012, 02:09 PM   #268
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The offline / AI experience is going to be really imperfect, we all know it. One thing we can certainly expect is for all the teams to play (almost) the exact same. Krebstar did his best last year to provide us with sliders that would create a varied experience, but nothing will change the core mechanics of the AI.

I think we can also safely say that differences between 90 rated players and 70 rated players will often be indistinguishable.

With all of that said, you know what? I don't care. As long as the Career Mode is deep enough and the player growth / development actually works, I'll play FIFA. I've probably said this too many times already, but with warts and all in FIFA 12's gameplay, it was good enough for me to enjoy thoroughly within the context of a Career Mode. Unfortunately, the academy and development were 100% broken. My biggest concern with FIFA 13 right now is that EA have made no official announcement about changes to either. Color me pessimistic, but I think that's probably a bad sign.
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It will be interesting to see people weigh in on the season ticket. I am curious to hear what has been tweaked post demo.

I still do not see myself purchasing FIFA this year just because I see so many logic mistakes and lapses in judgement from the AI. This is the same stuff that drove me absolutely nuts in 12, and while 13 has improved, many of the same AI issues persist to a lesser degree. I also need to see more than 1 foul called every 5 matches. I know some are seeing all kinds of fouls but I am getting mugged game after game against CPU and rarely see a call. Another carry over issue from 12 that was close to a game breaker.

How much is season pass? If you buy it now would it be good up through Madden and NCAA of next year or would it expire at the end of this year? Kind of pointless to buy season pass this late if such is the case. It would be good for a weekend rental of FIFA and nothing more? Does it cover NFS?

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Old 09-17-2012, 03:10 PM   #270
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I see fouls called correctly the majority of the time, it's just hard on the higher levels to get the ball off the CPU when they start spinning around.

I love manual controls, Manager Mode, and the licenses. I can live with a lot of the faults except the poor markin in/or around the box. We shouldn't need a slder to tell our defenders to not give attackers space in the box. I've tried both marking settings (75 & 5) to no avail.
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What you guys are saying might be true that by putting the marking slider at 100 makes the AI overplay...
That's what I thought when I had crazy scores with high marking in '12, but someone above suggested that lower marking values equals tighter marking.


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It will be interesting to see people weigh in on the season ticket. I am curious to hear what has been tweaked post demo.
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How much is season pass? If you buy it now would it be good up through Madden and NCAA of next year or would it expire at the end of this year? Kind of pointless to buy season pass this late if such is the case. It would be good for a weekend rental of FIFA and nothing more? Does it cover NFS?
I have ST, so I'll try to post some impressions. Although I didn't play the demo too much due to the short halves. To answer your questions, ST is $25 and it lasts for one year from subscription date. You'd get the early release for FIFA13, Tiger Woods, NCAA, Madden, NHL, and possibly part of FIFA 14 (depending on release date). I'm almost certain Need For Speed is not part of the deal, only EA Sports titles. There are some additional incentives for each game, often related to UT card packs, and 20% in-game DLC purchases like UT packs.
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That's what I thought when I had crazy scores with high marking in '12, but someone above suggested that lower marking values equals tighter marking.




I have ST, so I'll try to post some impressions. Although I didn't play the demo too much due to the short halves. To answer your questions, ST is $25 and it lasts for one year from subscription date. You'd get the early release for FIFA13, Tiger Woods, NCAA, Madden, NHL, and possibly part of FIFA 14 (depending on release date). I'm almost certain Need For Speed is not part of the deal, only EA Sports titles. There are some additional incentives for each game, often related to UT card packs, and 20% in-game DLC purchases like UT packs.
Also, free creation center DLC which was about $10 last year I believe.
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