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RaychelSnr · 08-23-2012, 12:52 PM

If you've taken the newly released Tony Hawk's Pro Skater HD online, you might be wondering how some people are posting scores in the millions while the majority of players are still struggling to reach six-digit figures.

The simple answer is the manual. Introduced in Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2, the manual allows skaters to continue their trick combo onto flat surfaces by simply popping wheelie after wheelie.

Read More - How the Manual Ruined Tony Hawks Pro Skater's Scoring System

riichiieriich · 08-23-2012, 04:01 PM

Tony Hawk is dead. Skate is better. The controls in Skate are so much more fluid than the button-tapping mess that is now Tony Hawk Pro Skater.

shigogouhou · 08-23-2012, 07:39 PM

The first video's following the exact same line with essentially the same tricks throughout (including at least two major air jumps that involved no tricks, presumably used just to line up that long run involving a backflip over the halfpipe into the long grind sequence.

It's not much more interesting than the bunny-hopping in video 2. More realistic, I guess, if getting huge air solely to brush harmlessly against a wall counts for realism.

cosmonautDREW · 08-24-2012, 01:02 AM

i wholeheartedly disagree. I like Skate for the very reason that it is close to skateboarding, i like Tony Hawk for the madness.

I loved THPS4, which had manuals, reverts, and spine transfers. The skill it took to do a 50 million point combo was astonishing and something to strive for in a creative fashion. It's very much the old school, "i'm gonna go to the arcade and set a record on this machine." Not a lot of games did that then when THPS4 was alive and kicking. Online, the community ended up doing 1 billion point combos from "whore lines" (lines that can be repeated by reverts, manuals and such)

I might have a bias because i was in the community of THPS4 online, but either way, i believe there is something truly lost on casual fans of THPS. It is a much deeper and manic game than people portray it to be.

Here's an example of a creative line from AndyTHPS (a player who ended up working for Neversoft because he was so damn good. He ended up doing level design for THPS series) : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVy4dUA71eo

cosmonautDREW · 08-24-2012, 01:03 AM

i don't know how to make that clickable...sorry.

BIGE888 · 08-24-2012, 02:20 AM

NO.....just.....NO.

bigbob · 08-24-2012, 03:09 AM

That second video was the biggest joke I've ever seen.

While I agree that the first video was just the same thing a couple of times in a row, at least it was more realistic.

b2th3m1th · 08-24-2012, 05:33 AM

they are both the same and repetitive they both dont take world class skill to do.

08-23-2012, 12:52 PM	#1
RaychelSnr Executive Editor OVR: 57 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 4,846 Blog Entries: 490	How the Manual Ruined Tony Hawks Pro Skater's Scoring System If you've taken the newly released Tony Hawk's Pro Skater HD online, you might be wondering how some people are posting scores in the millions while the majority of players are still struggling to reach six-digit figures. The simple answer is the manual. Introduced in Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2, the manual allows skaters to continue their trick combo onto flat surfaces by simply popping wheelie after wheelie. Read More - How the Manual Ruined Tony Hawks Pro Skater's Scoring System Platform: PS3 / Xbox 360

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08-23-2012, 04:01 PM	#2
riichiieriich Rookie OVR: 2 Join Date: May 2009 Location: San Diego, CA	Tony Hawk is dead. Skate is better. The controls in Skate are so much more fluid than the button-tapping mess that is now Tony Hawk Pro Skater.

08-23-2012, 07:39 PM	#3
shigogouhou Banned OVR: 13 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Rochester, NY Blog Entries: 4	The first video's following the exact same line with essentially the same tricks throughout (including at least two major air jumps that involved no tricks, presumably used just to line up that long run involving a backflip over the halfpipe into the long grind sequence. It's not much more interesting than the bunny-hopping in video 2. More realistic, I guess, if getting huge air solely to brush harmlessly against a wall counts for realism.

08-24-2012, 01:02 AM	#4
cosmonautDREW Rookie OVR: 0 Join Date: Apr 2012	i wholeheartedly disagree. I like Skate for the very reason that it is close to skateboarding, i like Tony Hawk for the madness. I loved THPS4, which had manuals, reverts, and spine transfers. The skill it took to do a 50 million point combo was astonishing and something to strive for in a creative fashion. It's very much the old school, "i'm gonna go to the arcade and set a record on this machine." Not a lot of games did that then when THPS4 was alive and kicking. Online, the community ended up doing 1 billion point combos from "whore lines" (lines that can be repeated by reverts, manuals and such) I might have a bias because i was in the community of THPS4 online, but either way, i believe there is something truly lost on casual fans of THPS. It is a much deeper and manic game than people portray it to be. Here's an example of a creative line from AndyTHPS (a player who ended up working for Neversoft because he was so damn good. He ended up doing level design for THPS series) : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVy4dUA71eo

08-24-2012, 01:03 AM	#5
cosmonautDREW Rookie OVR: 0 Join Date: Apr 2012	i don't know how to make that clickable...sorry.

08-24-2012, 02:20 AM	#6
BIGE888 Rookie OVR: 2 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NY	NO.....just.....NO.

08-24-2012, 03:09 AM	#7
bigbob MVP OVR: 28 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Inwood, West Virginia Posts: 10,471	That second video was the biggest joke I've ever seen. While I agree that the first video was just the same thing a couple of times in a row, at least it was more realistic.

08-24-2012, 05:33 AM	#8
b2th3m1th Banned OVR: 0 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: The 503 - PDX Blog Entries: 1	they are both the same and repetitive they both dont take world class skill to do.