Madden NFL 13 Ratings - Complete QB Ratings

[DNMHIII]

Quote: Originally Posted by Yeah...THAT Guy

You know Luck was basically identical at the combine to Newton right? He can create with his legs, he just chooses not to because he sees the field better than Newton at this point in their careers.

Hmmmmm....not sure if thats accurate at all to be honest.

Luck doesn't create with his legs because that not his game even though he definitly can make his way down field should he decide to leave the pocket. Luck isn't gonna juke or spin out of tackles, but he's more than capable of getting yards and sliding. Lucks game is at the line and checking out of bad plays and controlling the defense and thats why he's so coveted. I won't argue with Luck's strengths because I know how good he is, its when people start to compare Luck's passing game with Newton and RG3 that it becomes apparent that they just haven't watched much of Luck IMO.

[MattGarza13]

Who cares.. Haha only time will tell. RG3, Newton, and Luck all have HoF talent (easy, didn't say any of them will get close.. Just that physically at the QB position theres only been a few that can match them.) Not being racist but I believe Luck's athleticism gets overlooked because he was the white kid that went to Stanford.

They all have different types of games and I can't wait to hopefully see them join the elite group of QBs some day.

[N51_rob]

Quote: Originally Posted by DNMHIII

Hmmmmm....not sure if thats accurate at all to be honest. Luck doesn't create with his legs because that not his game even though he definitly can make his way down field should he decide to leave the pocket. Luck isn't gonna juke or spin out of tackles, but he's more than capable of getting yards and sliding. Lucks game is at the line and checking out of bad plays and controlling the defense and thats why he's so coveted. I won't argue with Luck's strengths because I know how good he is, its when people start to compare Luck's passing game with Newton and RG3 that it becomes apparent that they just haven't watched much of Luck IMO.

It's equally apparent you have a huge anti-Luck agenda.

[DNMHIII]

Quote: Originally Posted by N51_rob

It's equally apparent you have a huge anti-Luck agenda.

No not at all. I live 15 minutes from Palo Alto and I like Luck as a prospect, I'm just sick of people drooling over areas of his game that aren't reflective of his strengths. Luck is not a dynamic passer of the football and you'll be hard pressed to find anyone that says he is.

Newton and RG3 will ruin you with their arm if you let them, Luck will not and thats my view.

[N51_rob]

Quote: Originally Posted by DNMHIII

No not at all. I live 15 minutes from Palo Alto and I like Luck as a prospect, I'm just sick of people drooling over areas of his game that aren't reflective of his strengths. Luck is not a dynamic passer of the football and you'll be hard pressed to find anyone that says he is.

Except for all those NFL personal people who have called him the second coming of Elway. Time will tell at this point.

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[DNMHIII]

Quote: Originally Posted by N51_rob

Except for all those NFL personal people who have called him the second coming of Elway. Time will tell at this point. Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

Oh I get that and like I said I think he's talented no doubt. Luck could become a great QB and I'd compare him to a P. Manning without the same level of passing skills entering the NFL thats all. My point is that as passers Newton and RG3 were better passers than Luck in college and I think they'll be better passers in the NFL as well.

[jcool213]

Quote: Originally Posted by batyuki

So what's with the fan voting stuff ? People voted Aaron Rodgers to have the best deep ball accuracy, yet he ends up with a 94 and Eli has a 96. Looks like the votes are pointless in the end. Also, why does Newton have a 75 deep accuracy while he had an 85 in the final Madden 12 roster ? Seems a little random to me.

it is called not giveing a ray lewis

[KingV2k3]

I'm not that concerned with the OVR / THP / THA ratings...

It's the AWR rating that helps determine how well the defense (CPU) plays against you (HUM)...

Luck has a 60, RGIII has a 58 and...wait for it...

VINCE YOUNG has a 67!!!

It wouldn't be so bad, if it weren't for the fact that traditionally (?) AWR has been the "poor relation" of progression...

With those "starting points", ain't no way Luck or Griffin will EVER get their AWRs into the ranges that even mediocre starters begin the game with...

For instance, Orton is a 79 AWR and Palmer is an 80...

At a 3-5 point AWR increase over multiple seasons, it would take Luck / RGIII over 5 years to get as "smart" as Orton...

Don't underestimate the impact of QB AWR in this title...

Luck and RGIII might have great ratings re: "measurables", but in gameplay versus the CPU, they're going to be facing a very "smart" defense, which calibrates off opponent AWR...

AWR is the main reason I'm going to be complaining about the lack of editing...

I could manually progress the QBs (and others) from season to season, to reflect their "learned experience" of playing in the NFL...

Lastly, AWR doesn't seem to be fully understood / appreciated by the stock ratings...

The current system allows for too much of a spread in "intelligence" and not enough of a spread re: "measurables"...

Well, that's my "awareness" of the situation!