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Old 06-18-2012, 07:46 PM   #113
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Keep it civil, I like all the great hockey fans we have in this forum.. the only forum on OS I visit on a regular basis throughout the day.

We all want a great hockey game, honestly.. that's all we want and it's ok to be unhappy with the past few versions as well as be giddy for the next version.
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Old 06-18-2012, 08:25 PM   #114
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The slider is broken in 12. it worked fine in 11 imo. Heck even in 12 if you pressure the cpu enough and finish checks, they do panic and miss passes just not enough. Really the game is at the point with between the new skating, and such it just needs more tuning so that sliders have more of a drastic effect for the offline sim guys, or the sliders have a higher range of clicks.
Oh I still play 11, I never bought 12. Was unaware this slider was broken in 12 that's a shame, offense is too easy without any bad passes
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Old 06-18-2012, 08:32 PM   #115
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Sad because no one really knows how great or bad NHL 13 is going to be at this point. We haven't seen much to really make us believe one way or the other. I would say at this point , I feel it will be better than NHL 12. Alot better? Maybe, maybe not. For the record NHL 12 was the best of the NHL series...on paper. The problem was some of the implementation was poor.
It can't be worse than 12 I don't think. The skating and AI alone should improve the offline game substantially. Granted the jury is still way out on passing and GM logic, they've made that claim before on GM CPU logic and it ended up not being exactly accurate to put it nicely.

I think the gameplay itself will be an improvement on the whole, the jury is obviously still out on how they're going to handle passes being too accurate, at least from the alpha footage we've seen so far. But again it's not a finished product with nearly 3 months left of polish to go.

Hence my wait and see attitude and not stressing until we either have a demo and physical proof that passing is still not where it should be.

To be honest I'm more worried about GM logic/CPU Trade logic/line logic, because like I've said, we've heard it before that it was fixed and it hasn't been thus far this entire console generation. If there's one thing that truly does annoy me about the EA NHL series it's that right there.
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Old 06-18-2012, 08:42 PM   #116
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I agree with RealmK, the gameplay can't be worse in any way with the improvements. The only problem I see so far is Stamkos made Brett Clark look like a bantam-age player in the alpha video, but, it is Brett Clark, and the defensive user wasn't trying to show the ability of the defenceman.

Hopefully they'll find a happy medium so the top 20 players in the league don't destroy every defenceman.

The real question is the AI IQ. Hopefully rebuilding teams can change their strategies to fit their team. I want teams to have personality, I want to have to shut down opposing players with my top defensive payers, and I want to have my 4th line be scored on more often than not if I leave them out against the top unit of the opposing team.
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Old 06-19-2012, 12:30 AM   #117
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I agree with RealmK, the gameplay can't be worse in any way with the improvements. The only problem I see so far is Stamkos made Brett Clark look like a bantam-age player in the alpha video, but, it is Brett Clark, and the defensive user wasn't trying to show the ability of the defenceman.

Hopefully they'll find a happy medium so the top 20 players in the league don't destroy every defenceman.

The real question is the AI IQ. Hopefully rebuilding teams can change their strategies to fit their team. I want teams to have personality, I want to have to shut down opposing players with my top defensive payers, and I want to have my 4th line be scored on more often than not if I leave them out against the top unit of the opposing team.
Fully agree. That's one of the major things this game lacks. I believe player separation and team separation/strategies/talent go hand in hand with each other. If Crosby, Ovechkin, Datsyuk, Malkin, Stamkos, etc. all show that they are elite and more talented then everyone else in this game, then the teams should play how they are in real life. Where the Pens have more than one star player and should dominate games and the Lightning for example only have one superstar and the supporting cast isn't quite as talented (besides St. Louis and Lecavlier). The Lightning should dominate while Stamkos is on the ice but be a little more on their heels when their 2nd, 3rd, and 4th lines are out.

However, this coaching thing could throw a bone into all of this. If different coaches have different styles I don't want a more defensive style coach go to a team with a crap load of talent like the Pens. Obviously this is just me talking before we have found out what the coaching thing is all about but all in all team separation is an absolute must. I don't think I can go another year with this game if I can't tell the difference between the Islanders and the Kings.
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Old 06-19-2012, 02:17 AM   #118
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Fully agree. That's one of the major things this game lacks. I believe player separation and team separation/strategies/talent go hand in hand with each other. If Crosby, Ovechkin, Datsyuk, Malkin, Stamkos, etc. all show that they are elite and more talented then everyone else in this game, then the teams should play how they are in real life. Where the Pens have more than one star player and should dominate games and the Lightning for example only have one superstar and the supporting cast isn't quite as talented (besides St. Louis and Lecavlier). The Lightning should dominate while Stamkos is on the ice but be a little more on their heels when their 2nd, 3rd, and 4th lines are out.

However, this coaching thing could throw a bone into all of this. If different coaches have different styles I don't want a more defensive style coach go to a team with a crap load of talent like the Pens. Obviously this is just me talking before we have found out what the coaching thing is all about but all in all team separation is an absolute must. I don't think I can go another year with this game if I can't tell the difference between the Islanders and the Kings.

Couldn't have put it better myself. I really hope the GM Brain or whatever they're calling it, actually has a brain and utilizes it's player strengths and weaknesses when setting strategies/lines etc. What they're proposing has a ton of potential to totally change the offline game to go with the new skating.

It remains to be seen however where they go with tuning. I hate this time of year to be honest, September is still too far off.
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Old 06-19-2012, 02:36 AM   #119
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Exactly. I know that personally (and hope this doesn't kill me on any GM Connected leagues) I always build a defence-first team, so will be playing some form of the trap. If I play against Pittsburgh and they are also trapping, I will be very upset, because clearly they are an offensive team.

I just hope that 10 seasons into a GM Mode, if, for example, Detroit winds up rebuilding, that they change up their strategies to best fit their new team mold, OR, the players they draft and trade for, fit the puck possession type game they currently play.
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Old 06-19-2012, 05:29 AM   #120
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I just hope they scaled passing up a lot to appeal to the new people at E3 and show off the skating. I remember last year when the incorporated the ability to break the glass, the team at E3 made it so the glass would literally break every couple shifts, just to show off the fact that they put it in the game.

I can only HOPE that's the reason, because we all know sliders can only take care of a small matter, and that's usually only offline.

They still do have like 5 weeks left in the dev cycle, and I hope they saw the feedback from that clip. It's been an overwhelmingly high amount of people talking about the rocket passing sticking like glue to the sticks.

If they change that, I believe this will be my favorite NHL to date. Passing is such a large part of the game however, so without that fixed, the game will be average imo
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