NBA 2K13 Gameplay Video Featuring Spurs vs. Thunder & All Star Weekend - 6/4 10PM EST

[exposedaking]

any work being done to isomotion? it was kinda clunky..im hoping for more fluid, fast and explosive crossovers

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[RyanFitzmagic]

Quote: Originally Posted by kolanji

what r u even talking about...u prob dont know what a up and under move is. u dont literally have to bring the ball all the way down to go up and under the UP is the showing of the ball to the jumping defender and going under his out stretch arms...and u dont have to score it is a good way to get a jumping defender create contact and try to get to the line and in lebron wade rose and can keep going to still try to get to a 3 point play....

A pump fake and drive ("Show and go") is not the same as an up-and-under.

[stillfeelme]

Quote: Originally Posted by Beluba

yeah i don't work on tendencies, but i'll take care of this one tomorrow. how often do you want to see the guys with the highest tendencies use the up and unders?

Personally in my opinion it is the guards mostly the PG's that are the main problem with the up and unders and the scoop shots. There are some scoop layups and up and unders that don't draw contact and can't seem to be blocked or draw contact when there should be sometimes with multiple defenders in the paint.

SG's should be doing flick flick moves 3-4 times a game on the higher end and you have to think who really are using those moves and really only 3 come to mind.

Kobe, Wade, Manu are the first that come to mind.

Kobe has the best footwork and post game out of all the guards in the NBA and Wade is second. Kobe and Wade do it for post game moves and to get people to bite on fakes. Manu is just crafty as well.

PG's should not be doing flick flick moves as often.

Rondo should be doing his flick flick ball fakes I would say again 3-4 times a game and he should be on the high end. The only other PG that comes to mind is Andre Miller he has a serious post game and should be using them maybe 1-2 times a game. The rest of the PG's should have a low tendency to to this. If they get in the paint most PG's are shooting a floater or shooting a high layup, miss, block or make. They are not stopping on a dime to do a flick flick moves. I am not saying there are not other PG's that can't do flick flick moves but they just don't show it in game because the chance of getting blocked is high so the tendency should be low.

SF: There are a number of SF's that have solid post games like Melo but he is not a up and under user neither is Durant

PF, C's: Scola, Al Jefferson, are high flick flick users 5 plus times a game and are good at doing them. Bynum does it a few times but it is mainly for turn arounds in the lane and isn't as cooridinated as Scola and Jefferson. Randolph does it a few times a game as well. Javele Magee does it I say about 3 times a game looks cooridinated doing them but isn't succesfull. Blake Griffin does flick, flick moves to a step through a few times a game 2-4. He is not as polished but he does do them a few. Other guys like Nene use them often too.

[Beluba]

Quote: Originally Posted by exposedaking

any work being done to isomotion? it was kinda clunky..im hoping for more fluid, fast and explosive crossovers Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk 2

I've personally hated isomotion for years. Fixing it has been my primary objective for 13.

[kolanji]

Quote:

PG's should not be doing flick flick moves as often.

????/ point guards are the guiltiest parties mainly because they are the shortest ppl on the court to elude shot blockers and paint defenders....

[ctu130]

Quote: Originally Posted by Beluba

I've personally hated isomotion for years. Fixing it has been my primary objective for 13.

interesting. can't wait to see how this turns out

[stillfeelme]

Quote: Originally Posted by kolanji

????/ point guards are the guiltiest parties mainly because they are the shortest ppl on the court to elude shot blockers and paint defenders....

The way I see it it was too many point guards doing it across the board backups, starters good pg's bad pg's it didn't matter and sometimes when you had defenders in the way it didn't draw contact, or they would "know" to go to an scoop shot that can't be blocked. Some of the animations didn't even make sense as it would be a clear travel and then the CPU would transition say from driving to the lane then go to a flick flick move. The CPU would usually go to that scoop layup or the reverse layup backwards which are pretty much un blockbable.

[DukeC]

Quote: Originally Posted by kolanji

????/ point guards are the guiltiest parties mainly because they are the shortest ppl on the court to elude shot blockers and paint defenders....

What?

Most guards, in fact, put up mini floaters (similar to what you saw Westbrook do in the video) and use their bodies to shield the ball from the defender to avoid blocks. No one's doing any up and unders out there, unless you're Rondo or Parker, and even Rondo and Parker prefer to use a floater 90% of the time.

Hell, DWade uses a floater/euro 90 percent of the time when he drives to the basket. But he's not doing any up and unders.