Madden NFL 13 Video Interview - EA Tiburon Breaks Down Some of the New Changes

[WFColonel56]

Quote: Originally Posted by Smoke6

Yeah, no huddles/hurry ups have been broken, it directly effects the alignment of the defenders as they are all misplaced when they go back to there normal positions on the field. The offense can audible and adjust and hike the ball before you can even playmaker your first 2 defenders to try and stop the play. sorry, never encountered my guys lining up misplaced...Maybe my LBs were closer to the LOS but thats it and yeah the offense can line up quick but that has nothing to do with the defense being broken...And you most def can playmaker more than 2 players. If you are paying attention to the offensive formation and know what you need to do Oh and HB draws are flawed as hell too, thats another thing people do online thats very annoying, and you can come out prepared for it and still get burned by it. Whats so damning about it is that when you come out in a pass formation like 4wr snugs or a spread with 1 back, your opponent can be prepared to stop the draw as he knows its coming by the way the offense audibles at the LOS, but he always manages to get 4-5 yrds a carry but if you were to pass, my linemen are in the back field a whole lot faster than there were on the draw from the same formation and being prepared for it! I have been saying the draw is way to effective since month one....guess who at the end of the day falls on again Yall just play cheap and its that simple, everyone wants to win, but I dont wanna win like that or that bad. playing 75% football and letting people take any risk they want is not very inviting at all, and if you wanna go by stats and history, then its all there for you as the NFL as never had a "risk" season like that all ever! You dont have to play with us... The very same point I made at TGL. Gibs,K, and I have more than enough broken down the mindset as well as the reason some players do what they do. And I still stand by the point that you can only use whats the game allows you to do. Point blank and again, you know who that falls on.. But again you dont have to play "us" if you dont want to.

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[sgibs7]

Quote: Originally Posted by baller7345

As an extremist you are in the minority and likely have a bomb strapped to your chest.... I can go and say that banning all types of user blitzes is going against the idea of freestyle since not every single time a guy rushes through the a gap manually is an obvious glitch. I can say that real teams block fgs and that banning fg blocks is against the spirit of doing whatever want because they did put a mechanic in the game (holding A) to try and stop it. I know it doesn't usually work but still I'm being the freestyle nazi in this case. I know there are onside kick rules in some tournaments well how is that holding with the freestyle principle that you have put in place. We can run the extreme viewpoint both ways.

thats totally fine taht you think that - (im aware of holding A to try and throw off the timing of the kick).

the rules that are in place for freestyle are there because you cant make a adjustments to your team to stop whats happening - ie fg blocks - i cant pinch my line, i cant hot route someone, same iwth onside kicks i cant make adjustments to stop what they are doing.

the blitzing threw the tackels thing is a colonol thing - im 100% ok wiht blitzing throught he tackles and so was VG.

just as you are frustrated with the 15 min qtr rule - is how i perceive the entire sim understanding.

you can be as sim as you want to make it

[WFColonel56]

Quote: Originally Posted by baller7345

As an extremist you are in the minority and likely have a bomb strapped to your chest.... I can go and say that banning all types of user blitzes is going against the idea of freestyle since not every single time a guy rushes through the a gap manually is an obvious glitch. I can say that real teams block fgs and that banning fg blocks is against the spirit of doing whatever want because they did put a mechanic in the game (holding A) to try and stop it. I know it doesn't usually work but still I'm being the freestyle nazi in this case. I know there are onside kick rules in some tournaments well how is that holding with the freestyle principle that you have put in place. We can run the extreme viewpoint both ways.

the onside kick rules basically came from the fact that in years past you could kick the ball in ways that gave you an outrageous chance to get it back (like 90%) and it has stuck around because of it....even if that madden didnt have that issue. Just on the off chance it was in the game

You cant just ban offsides kicks ya know.Its an important part of football. But it also goes with the whole thing of banning flat out glitches

[baller7345]

Quote: Originally Posted by sgibs7

thats totally fine taht you think that - (im aware of holding A to try and throw off the timing of the kick). the rules that are in place for freestyle are there because you cant make a adjustments to your team to stop whats happening - ie fg blocks - i cant pinch my line, i cant hot route someone, same iwth onside kicks i cant make adjustments to stop what they are doing. the blitzing threw the tackels thing is a colonol thing - im 100% ok wiht blitzing throught he tackles and so was VG. just as you are frustrated with the 15 min qtr rule - is how i perceive the entire sim understanding. you can be as sim as you want to make it

I actually agree with you on the no fg blocking rules and the onside kick rules even if I may agree with them for different reasons (if I play someone I don't want to see them kicking onside kicks everytime not because it used to be automatic). I was simply trying to imply that while you can say that nobody is "truly" sim it can be just as easily said that nobody is truly freestyle/tourney.

Many of the rules such as no moving players and even rules like no huddle and absolutely no rocket catches are actually much like WFColonel said about the onside kick rule, they are simply stuff that has carried over from past games.

As for me being frustrated at not playing 15 minute quarters it doesn't actually bother me. Sure I'd love to play 15 minute quarters if the game could reasonably produce realistic stats and if everyone had the time but it isn't something I'm going to question at its core.

I don't play the game because its a game I enjoy. I play the game because I love football and I want to keep it as close to football as I possibly can. That is my entire basis for playing sim. With as much as I mess around in practice mode I could just as easily play freestyle but I simply can't stand to play that way.

I have nothing against people who do play that way but I do find it annoying that people first response to a new madden involves things like trying every glitch that has ever been in madden (smoke posted a thread from the gamer's lab where many of the members said that was first on their to do list)instead of trying to apply real football to the game. Colonel says that its all on the developers but just because something is in the game doesn't mean you have to use it.

[sgibs7]

i think we have reached the eye of the hurricane

[baller7345]

Quote: Originally Posted by sgibs7

i think we have reached the eye of the hurricane

That would be because normal people sleep.

However being a person that routinely pulled all nighters when Skyrim was first released and has been known to speed well over 12 hours at a time in practice mode in Madden I hardly know what sleep is.....though really I should be packing my RA is going to kick me out of here tomorrow.

[sgibs7]

Quote: Originally Posted by baller7345

I actually agree with you on the no fg blocking rules and the onside kick rules even if I may agree with them for different reasons (if I play someone I don't want to see them kicking onside kicks everytime not because it used to be automatic). I was simply trying to imply that while you can say that nobody is "truly" sim it can be just as easily said that nobody is truly freestyle/tourney. perfect - bc thats exactly what I believe. we are all only MADDEN players and thats it. Many of the rules such as no moving players and even rules like no huddle and absolutely no rocket catches are actually much like WFColonel said about the onside kick rule, they are simply stuff that has carried over from past games. Ok correct them and our update them. Hes incorrect about some of the things he said about those rules. As for me being frustrated at not playing 15 minute quarters it doesn't actually bother me. Sure I'd love to play 15 minute quarters if the game could reasonably produce realistic stats and if everyone had the time but it isn't something I'm going to question at its core. But its not about that - its about simulating a NFL experiance and you arent doing that if you dont adhere to this. Thats your decision taht you dont question it but you are again stating that its ok to side step certain sim standards and rules as you deem neccesary. I don't play the game because its a game I enjoy. I play the game because I love football and I want to keep it as close to football as I possibly can. That is my entire basis for playing sim. With as much as I mess around in practice mode I could just as easily play freestyle but I simply can't stand to play that way. so then you need to start playing 15 min qtrs or else you arent sim at all. I have nothing against people who do play that way but I do find it annoying that people first response to a new madden involves things like trying every glitch that has ever been in madden (smoke posted a thread from the gamer's lab where many of the members said that was first on their to do list)instead of trying to apply real football to the game. Colonel says that its all on the developers but just because something is in the game doesn't mean you have to use it.

dont group me into that subset - thats not what I do or how I play the game

[sgibs7]

Quote: Originally Posted by baller7345

That would be because normal people sleep. However being a person that routinely pulled all nighters when Skyrim was first released and has been known to speed well over 12 hours at a time in practice mode in Madden I hardly know what sleep is.....though really I should be packing my RA is going to kick me out of here tomorrow.

you mean its not normal to sit and battle about sim vs freestyle for 10 hours? haha

my video is at 90% upload - almost done.

will post in here