Madden NFL 13 Video Interview - EA Tiburon Breaks Down Some of the New Changes

[Smoke6]

Quote: Originally Posted by raguel

I don't like penalties either. I don't necessarily want more penalties, I just want penalties thrown on obvious P.I. plays. If that means less contact (better pathing?) between defender and receiver I can live with that. Anyone remember the good old days when the receiver could initiate contact and a flag would be thrown on the defense? LOL I had a friend who'd do that to me at least once a game.

Hold up, let me explain bro, I think their might be some misunderstanding here...

If you love watching the game of football on Sundays, then thats all I want to try and experience on the field in madden. Im not asking for penalties every down, im just wanting most if not all included into the package I pay $60 a year for.

But let it be known that all this should be optional to your liking bro, i just want them to add it with my discretion on if and when I decide to use them or not is all.

[NASCARS]

The guy that is the Creative Lead for Madden this year put out a Virtual Playbook diary or whatever last year that said helmet stickers were an important addition to the presentation of the game. Sounds super creative. All I've heard them talk about is new camera angles, motion blur and lighting. Holy crap. Someone needs to shake the hell out of the Marketing guy over there at EA Sports.

You want to really create a buzz in the Madden community? How about you announce that you've revamped the franchise mode? You know, the one that's been UNTOUCHED (minus the cutting of players through preseason that was HORRIBLY done last year) for the past several years. Coaches don't mean enough. Buying upgrades for your stadium literally does nothing. Hell, the logos for moving a team ARE THE SAME THEY WERE IN THE YEAR 2000.

I love gameplay as much as the next guy, but I understand there is only so much you can do with a football game to make it realistic. There are just so many moving parts and contact between the player models (which, by the way, everyone in the game looks like they're on steroids). But there is literally no excuse for the franchise mode, which is essentially a collection of menus, to be as bare bones and horrible as it is.

NBA 2K has team chemistry ratings, coach potential, a completely rendered version of commissioner David Stern and deputy commissioner Adam Silver at the NBA draft, a trade system that allows you to see what a team would want for a certain player (Trade Finder tool), NBA.com homepage with all of the latest scores and stories about contracts, drama on the teams, etc, and a white house visit for the team that wins the championship.

So, gimme a break.

[NASCARS]

They've taken away more from the Madden franchise mode in the recent years than they've added to it (Radio Show, Mini-Camp training, Pre-Season position battles, etc.). What's so crazy is that the majority of the stuff they've taken away was from LAST GEN CONSOLES. I know it's got to be more difficult to create a dynamic lighting system than it is for Jim Nantz to record a few lines of dialogue saying the names and team names of places a franchise could move to (or hell, just let them keep the same name EX: Los Angeles Rams).

There are so many problems with gameplay it's hard to list in 1 website, let alone 1 forum or 1 forum post. But the problems with the user interface in the different modes is totally unacceptable. They don't even have to "fix" the game to make it SO much better. Just give us some details that make us more immersed in the total experience. The majority of people that play this game play Franchise mode, either alone or with friends. Make that an enjoyable process rather than a flat one.

[Big FN Deal]

Quote: Originally Posted by tazdevil20

I think it's fine for people to play without penalties. However, why isn't it an option? Not only should I be able to turn them off, but I should be able to adjust the frequency of it happening. I should be able to set up my game so that a penalty is called nearly every other play. I'll never forget when I was playing NFL 2k5 years ago and my buddy I was playing against online called a screen play. He used the falcons so he had Vick, so he scrambled a bit because my line got in there (obviously on the screen). This delayed the development of the play. He caught the pass with Dunn and ran for about 30 yards. However, flags got thrown (and yes, they were actually thrown by the ref on the field in real time). The penalty? Ineligible man downfield. This penalty does not even exist in Madden. I remember how we paused the game and talked for about 30 minutes about how awesome it was that the penalty was called. His lineman had gotten downfield because he waited too long to throw the ball. In the same game, I completed a pass for a 20 yard gain only to see flags again. My receiver (Amani Toomer), had been bumped and he ran out of bounds, but came back in to catch the ball. The penalty? Illegal touching. Once again this was met with awe as far as having this level of detail and realism in the game. This penalty also does not even exist in Madden. There are a lot more instances I can bring up that these guys should be ashamed of, but I don't feel like typing them all out again. Just these two facts alone is enough to warrant criticism of the "only officially licensed game of the NFL". This is an insult to the fan base and is an absolute embarrassment to the Tiburon team. EMBARRASSING. Some can say I'm being harsh, or an EA *****. I'm none of those. I'm holding them accountable. I used to be a loyal fan of Madden, from 1988 (Apple iie version) to 1999. It's obvious that their ability to produce something that warrants the 60 dollar price tag (not including the other charges if you do any of the micro transactions) is non existent. I rest my case...

Yeah, this right here is the quickest way to end a "Madden is realistic enough" discussion, lol. Penalties or the lack thereof in Madden in 2012 is a shot right to the heart of that.

That said, they did add illegal touch in M13, so now receivers can't just step out bounds and back in to make a catch. Also, they are reported to be making a strong effort for getting defensive PI to trigger correctly.

Overall, penalties are one of those areas that really highlight the worst thing about no other NFL game to choose, target marketing. The fact that each consumer base for various games has a different set of priorities that are usually reflected in the product, makes having a choice so much better.

Here we are in the 8th edition of next-gen Madden and illegal touch is just being added but I am sure if more current NFL games were in the market, some other company would have considered applicable real NFL penalties a essential, due to it's consumer base.

Oh well.

[jonzz]

Quote: Originally Posted by Smoke6

Hold up, let me explain bro, I think their might be some misunderstanding here... If you love watching the game of football on Sundays, then thats all I want to try and experience on the field in madden. Im not asking for penalties every down, im just wanting most if not all included into the package I pay $60 a year for. But let it be known that all this should be optional to your liking bro, i just want them to add it with my discretion on if and when I decide to use them or not is all.

Hey Smoke6 or Smoke Capone whichever you want to be called, you came over to TGL and we've helped you defeat nearly all the tactics sued in the lobby except the DC glitch always plagues Madden yearly. Funny thing is you come for our help then you turn around and try to cast us in a bad light constantly after you were told every man has a right to play the "Video game" the way "he see's fit". Hell you even went as far as to beef with one of the TGL Elite and threatened him. Wow, this goes to show every time someone crosses a bridge and then crosses back to the other side just to burn the bridge he/she is a troll.....

[raguel]

Quote: Originally Posted by Smoke6

Hold up, let me explain bro, I think their might be some misunderstanding here... If you love watching the game of football on Sundays, then thats all I want to try and experience on the field in madden. Im not asking for penalties every down, im just wanting most if not all included into the package I pay $60 a year for. But let it be known that all this should be optional to your liking bro, i just want them to add it with my discretion on if and when I decide to use them or not is all.

I'm not disagreeing with you; I'm disagreeing with EA's approach.

[x Adjust x]

I'm adjust from the other site, and I'm coming to set the record straight. I'm a tournament players so of course I play different than you guys. I play to win, as do everyone else I play with. Everyone spends $60 so they should be able to use the game how ever they want, I find the tournament competition more exciting than the sim play. But that's another story. I find glitches when I first get the game which is 2-3 weeks early, and I send them to EA. I don't keep them, I don't hide them, and I don't use them to gain. I post videos, show how to use it, and tell everyone what to do. Do you blame me for finding the faults in the game, or the developers for allowing it, or the beta testers for not finding them? You can think of me as an extended beta tester, I find things before the game is out so people like you can have a seamless online experience. So go check my youtube channel, and see how many things i've saved you guys from.

[ClevelandFan]

lol why yall mad tho? Sim players will be sim players and tourney players will be tourney players.