NBA 2K12 Player Ratings Revealed, Including All Free Agents

[MrBigShot1]

Kobe has a 99 layup(wtf?), a 99 close and only a 78 medium? I'm not one to whine about overalls, but these 3 stats are off...You could argue that not even prime Kobe should have a 99 layup. Med should be at least 85 imo, and I would personally make it 90 if in charge of ratings. We are talking about the guy that routinely drains jumpers right in people's faces while being doubled teamed on a daily basis.

The problem with using field goal percentage as a component of coming up with these ratings is that it doesn't ALWAYS reflect ability.

Kobe's mid range FG% is probably much lower than someone of equal mid range shooting ability because of his shot selection.

FG% not always =/= ability, because shot selection is a part of it. You could shoot the ball like Ray Allen but it doesn't matter if you have poor shot selection.

[ccjj1010]

Quote: Originally Posted by MrBigShot1

Kobe has a 99 layup(wtf?), a 99 close and only a 78 medium? I'm not one to whine about overalls, but these 3 stats are off...You could argue that not even prime Kobe should have a 99 layup. Med should be at least 85 imo, and I would personally make it 90 if in charge of ratings. We are talking about the guy that routinely drains jumpers right in people's faces while being doubled teamed on a daily basis. The problem with using field goal percentage as a component of coming up with these ratings is that it doesn't ALWAYS reflect ability. Kobe's mid range FG% is probably much lower than someone of equal mid range shooting ability because of his shot selection. FG% not always =/= ability, because shot selection is a part of it. You could shoot the ball like Ray Allen but it doesn't matter if you have poor shot selection.

Im real upset, you should see some other people with similar ratings. Will Bynum (pistons) 78 overall hmmmm..

[RedSceptile]

Quote: Originally Posted by DurtySoufReppin

What excuse am I making? I'm complaining about ratings, I play online, so I have to play with these rosters at times. This is a ratings discussion thread isn't it? You're mentioning Kobe taking bad/difficult shots, like J.R. SMith doesn't take bad/difficult shots. Kobe takes bad/difficult shots because he's the only perimeter scorer on the Lakers, and IDK, the best player of this generation lol.

You're my friend but I gotta disagree!

(in case you were wondering J.R. Smith shot 48% from range)

There are some ratings for a few role players ( Gooden shot 42% from range) so he should probably be closer to 81 based on anequated conversions) I think one of the big discrepancies is how defense affects these shots, you have a 99 in all shooting skills, good defense will pretty much beat you all the time (believe me playing along against guys with maxed out shooting, perfect contests made the shot fall 20% of the time).

Also I think best player of our generation is either Duncan or Shaq.

[DukeC]

Quote: Originally Posted by MrBigShot1

Kobe has a 99 layup(wtf?), a 99 close and only a 78 medium? I'm not one to whine about overalls, but these 3 stats are off...You could argue that not even prime Kobe should have a 99 layup. Med should be at least 85 imo. The problem with using field goal percentage as a component of coming up with these ratings is that it doesn't ALWAYS reflect ability. Kobe's mid range FG% is probably much lower than someone of equal mid range shooting ability because of his shot selection. FG% not always =/= ability, because shot selection is a part of it. You could shoot the ball like Ray Allen but it doesn't matter if you have poor shot selection.

I think that factored into his rating. There is only so much you can do with defense and fine-tuning his tendencies until you just have to lower the rating to reflect his bad shot selection.

I would also look at his Low Post shot before we jump to conclusions. He's a beast from the low post, so they probably made it up with that. You can literally abuse Kobe's mid-range/post game because most shooting guards have like...50's in Low Post D. So that should even it out.

Also...I remember at one point JR Smith had a 90 in 3pt because he shot 40% from 3 (taking at least over 500 I think) despite his horrible, absolutely horrible shot selection.

Going back to Kobe, I also think he has inherited AI syndrome, where he shoots better if he's being guarded by someone rather than having a wide open look.

[ccjj1010]

Quote: Originally Posted by RedSceptile

Not my fault he takes bad/difficult shots. Seriously u swear you guys find an excuse for everything. I'm almost ready to give up.

What planet are you on that deshawn stevenson has the same midrange skill as Kobe Bryant. Both 78. Ur sick homie

[DukeC]

The only thing that puzzles me really is Zach Randolph having a 69 in Mid Range. 69. Unless the stats tell me otherwise...the eye test tells me Zach is lethal from that range. Again, evidence to the contrary (Of Zach being a good mid-range shooter) would be nice.

I also believe it was either Shaq or Kobe really. Timmy D is in the discussion...yet his game turned off a LOT of casual fans (His game was so sound fundementally that I started calling him the "Big Bore" ). So he may not be accepted as one of the best by the majority unless they're spoon-fed by the media.

[Notorious Arab]

To any1 that thinks Kobe's 78 mid range rating is right, u should be imprisoned for life. Im sorry. Kobe should be as close as Dirk in mid range. Kobe def. doesnt deserve a 99 layup either. I think people are forgeting that Kobe is just a couple hundred points away from being top 5 scoring all time.

[RedSceptile]

Zach Randolph shot 37% from mid range DukeC.