NBA 2K12 Developer Insight #9 - Defense

[fatleg3]

Quote: Originally Posted by thugnificant

no just stand by their defenders actually. look at the scrubs in 2k11 that guard the PG. pass to the PG and they switch to a big in the paint, once PG passes they switch back. FINALLY 2k gives advantage to on ball defenders

But what im trying to say is that not all offball users play like that. But every offball user is being grouped in that category.

Quote: Originally Posted by thugnificant

so you will leave shooting bigs open to get blocks? you are canceling dwights ratings anways by controlling him

Have you not see orl d irl. They cant stay in front of my grandmother on her walker. Dwight has to come help everytime someone drives to the basket, hence the fact that he is getting tired of doing everything and may be on his way out of orl. And its all a chess match. If you see me coming to help everytime and leaving a shooting big open then i deserve to have it kicked out on me for the open shot. Dont confuse me with someone who camps in the paint. I help when help is needed playing offball.

Quote: Originally Posted by NastyWordz

I get what your saying but it is much harder to play on ball D so the player should get a little reward for it, that could be my opinion but still. Also when you do help D on a offensive player who has the ball and block someone doesnt that count as on ball D?

And you right it is a little harder playing onball d. You have mimic the ball handler movements. You have to react to everything he is doing. I understand that now after the dev came in and cleared that up

[fatleg3]

Quote: Originally Posted by Sam Marlowe

No one, and I mean NO ONE, is arguing in favor of cheese when it comes to playing off ball. If the meat of your argument has to do with handling those kinds of players then you've got yourself a nice little straw man to beat up. Have fun. I know guys who can use the contact animation on ball to get steals 90% of the time no matter what the ball handler's ratings are. Would it make sense to claim that on ball defense is for cowards just because some guys choose to abuse flaws in the game? Theres a good number of variables that come into play. It looks as if many of the flaws that forced you to play off ball have been addressed. In any case, a man can play off ball and excecute in a perfectly fine, non-cheeser (sim if you like) abusing manner. The game can and will look like it does on TV.

Cheese is not at all the meat of my argument. I only mention cheese if the person im responding to does. And there is no flaw, exploit, or whatever that forces me to play offball sometimes. Its simply the fact that dwight is my favorite player. and sometimes its so much fun to play d with him. Its as simple as that

[Sam Marlowe]

Quote: Originally Posted by fatleg3

Cheese is not at all the meat of my argument. I only mention cheese if the person im responding to does. And there is no flaw, exploit, or whatever that forces me to play offball sometimes. Its simply the fact that dwight is my favorite player. and sometimes its so much fun to play d with him. Its as simple as that

I wasn't referencing you bro. I think we're on the same side. I'm perfectly fine with people playing off ball if it still represents the game as it looks irl.

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Wish 2k would stop using Facebook to post the insights. Not everyone uses it, including myself.

[fatleg3]

Quote: Originally Posted by Sam Marlowe

I wasn't referencing you bro. I think we're on the same side. I'm perfectly fine with people playing off ball if it still represents the game as it looks irl.

o ok. My bad. I sit and read it about 5 times trying to see if it was to me lol

[NINJAK2]

I really hope they toned down the effectiveness of zones somewhat for 2k12. The slowness of the passes combined with the Bruce Lee like quickness of defenders in reacting to passes/passing lanes in 2k11 made them a tad more effective than they are irl NBA.

[MrBallaBoy21]

Quote: Originally Posted by NINJAK2

I really hope they toned down the effectiveness of zones somewhat for 2k12. The slowness of the passes combined with the Bruce Lee like quickness of defenders in reacting to passes/passing lanes in 2k11 made them a tad more effective than they are irl NBA.

I always get torn up when I use zones against good players.

[rockchisler]

Quote: Originally Posted by Goffs

The only part I didn't like reading was that playing on ball defense is a must now as it will effect the offense shot. YES! I PLAY OFF BALL D! I like playing as the center because I just like going for the blocks... Need the demo to get the feel on how well the movement is for the defense...

Thats fine, you still can do that, you just wont be a good player, just practice you will be fine..